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floatingslowly 08.03.2009 06:13 PM

I'm not sure it's said anywhere that there were even palestinians involved.

were they?

I just read "hate crime".

honestly, not that it really matters. in my book, nothing justifies violence.

pbradley 08.03.2009 06:24 PM

Rationalizing any violence in eye-for-an-eye terms is the worst rational of all.

Palestinians would probably be very willing to execute their own homosexual population, if only they would just come out of hiding.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.04.2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fugazifan
pure evil.
anywise
fuck humanity
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1104659.html
just a random article about it, the haaretz site, and almost any other site has plenty of information about it.

I see you have taken the long-standing fundamentalist viewpoint of original sin and the inherent corruption and evil nature of humans. interestingly enough, this concept could have unified the otherwise murderously divided puritans vs papists as both were willing to burn people the stack in the name of purifying their eternal souls from the supposed evil of Adam and Eve..

but
how could you care about this incident if you say "fuck humanity"? If you carry this hate-filled, stark pessimistic view of life, then you have not only sunk to the level of the hatemongers, but you have let them win! Love covers a multitude of sins. Without love, you are nothing at all. Above all things, give love. love is a deep feeling of overwhelming forgiveness, compassion, empathy, for everyone and all. Expand your love and will change the world, and for a lack of love, much of the world has already sold itself, but the love of a small few is enough to keep the positiveness flowing above the negative. If it were not for love, we would have destroyed ourselves long ago..

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 08.04.2009 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fugazifan
. i would like to think that the civilains are seperate from the actions of their government.


so would I but Israel fucked up and makes ALL its citizens participate in its military. technically, there is no such thing as an israeli civilian. Israel sold out its citizens a long time ago and uses them for its agendas, the israeli govt is worse than the us, a corrupt bullshit warmongering institution that fails to reflect the views of the majority of its citizens and instead relies upon a blend of terror, propaganda based fear, religious ferverence, and above all absolutist police state control to pursue an elitist agenda at the expense of everyday israelis.. its damn shame really. they took a holy land and turned into the american dream (which any of us americans can assure you is a lie)

SONIC GAIL 08.04.2009 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
I see you have taken the long-standing fundamentalist viewpoint of original sin and the inherent corruption and evil nature of humans. interestingly enough, this concept could have unified the otherwise murderously divided puritans vs papists...

but
how could you care about this incident if you say "fuck humanity"? If you carry this hate-filled, stark pessimistic view of life, then you have not only sunk to the level of the hatemongers, but you have let them win! Love covers a multitude of sins. Without love, you are nothing at all. Above all things, give love. love is a deep feeling of overwhelming forgiveness, compassion, empathy, for everyone and all. Expand your love and will change the world, and for a lack of love, much of the world has already sold itself, but the love of a small few is enough to keep the positiveness flowing above the negative. If it were not for love, we would have destroyed ourselves long ago..


The most positive post I have read on this site. When did the all religions start forgetting the lesson of LOVE!:)

fugazifan 08.04.2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
so would I but Israel fucked up and makes ALL its citizens participate in its military. technically, there is no such thing as an israeli civilian. Israel sold out its citizens a long time ago and uses them for its agendas, the israeli govt is worse than the us, a corrupt bullshit warmongering institution that fails to reflect the views of the majority of its citizens and instead relies upon a blend of terror, propaganda based fear, religious ferverence, and above all absolutist police state control to pursue an elitist agenda at the expense of everyday israelis.. its damn shame really. they took a holy land and turned into the american dream (which any of us americans can assure you is a lie)

even so, i still dont think that this massacre can be justified by that. i hardly think that serving in the army makes you deserve to be shot like a dog in a basement for whatever the reason.
and enough people in israel dont serve in the army if they dont want. i wasnt in the army.
and about your above post. i agree with you, i was just a bit angry....


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