I hope all the idiots in the comments section of that get visited by the Secret Service for making death threats against a sitting President. One of those fools even volunteered to be on the firing squad.

what's a shocker is that someone here will post links to a racist website where commenters talk about executing obama, call his wife a baboon, offer to throw refugees into a wood chipper, etc.

well, not much of a shocker really... this place is fucked...

I had not even read down to the comments as I usually don't care what others think......especially from idiots that posted such comments. If I had seen the comments, I would have just copy and pasted the story or looked for the story somewhere else.

Oh well, what many have been concerned about has happened and this is the true worry / story!

Racism aside, if this story is true, it's worrisome. As soon as I read the piece, I had to do some light research.

Here's the original piece the blogger sources:

http://www.wbrz.com/news/catholic-ch...n-baton-rouge/

Anyone care to count the significant differences between the shoddy piece of local journalism and the even shoddier and flat-out irresponsible blog posting?

A charity named Catholic Charities helps Syrian refugees, among others.

From the real news article:

"WBRZ has learned Catholic Charities helped the refugee who settled in Baton Rouge, but said the immigrant left for another state after a couple of days, and they don't know where the refugee went since they don't track them."

You mean a charity doesn't monitor refugees? Impeach the prez.

Anyway, fucking UPDATE at the end of the real story:

Update Nov. 17 - Louisiana State Police told News 2 on Tuesday the refugee who briefly stayed in Baton Rouge left for Washington D. C.

!!!!!!!!!

And yet this fucking blog post has metastasized all over the net. Multiple places are copy-and-pasting this piece of shit. Argg!

the good thing to come of this is increased cooperation between us anglo/euro/ru etc. to destroy isis which i think its fair to say is one of the worst movements in human history if not the very worst

daily stonings/crucifixions/murder, slavery etc. all based on a 7th century agricultural murder manual

its also important to recognize that they are actually doing these things right now. most of the west seems to willfully dissociated behind its own hyper-mediatized haze to recognize this and when it does its usually far right racists calling attention to it.

anyway, badiou wrote this about charlie hebdo and it applies to this latest one too


which is pretty good in that it goes further than the majority of left sentiment

but also makes the glaring gaps in this thinking obvious

because anti racism plus universalism is not a strategy capable of ending either war or jihadization

it doesn't do that much but allow the bourgeoisie of the arms dealing war waging countries to manage their own peace by dampening down the worst excesses of their own right wing dipshits

also badiou does the whole "these poor poor people we shouldnt offend all that they hold precious cos they clean our toilets, lets feel or project a little dose of guilt about that" which is condescending and exclusionary of those people. also he comes close to devaluing the staff of charlie hebdo almost as if they deserved it more than poor syrians might.

this is why im a nihilist.

also can i point out to some in this thread that one of the attackers was a syrian refugee

also, i even accept the argument of right wing racists when they say that enough 3rd world migration would cause collapse to our services/civilization because its true. and not just because these racists would do everything in their power to stop communities integrating.

altho if you read the more articulate among the far right they explicitly want to destroy western civ in the name of defeating some abstract definition of liberalism and some even explicitly promote anti immigrantion policies as a way of regressing us back to the 19th century nation state form and destroying modernity and quite literally making us retrain as basketweavers. like this is what they actually explicitly want to happen. thats their ideal.

its the far right of islam and of the 1st world that's teaming up against basic liberal values and the economy and peace they maintain, which is worrying. ideally we would just sit back and let these two fight each other and they mostly do but when they allign against liberalism its bad news.

YES!!!

USA govt. has a long history of deposing/overthrowing democratically elected, Leftist governments and replacing them with right wing dictators they think they can control. Pathetic.

The sole anger is mine as I had typed a 20 line reply that vanished...

I've been isolated with colleagues for two days now. We haven't had time to go out. We share second hand stories (the subway being a non-crowded place, as SYRFox noted) and then have a laugh, as life goes on.
Going to the meeting place monday afternoon, I noted two kids (about 4 each) whose gaze was frozen.

So as I haven't crossed the path of that many strangers, I can't say if there's anger. That is, to answer your question, against foreigners that would look like your Syrian stereotype.
Among my friends, the anger I noted is directed at the government:
How come they don't attack the problem at one of its roots - money (who buys ISIS' petrol?)
How come they never did anything for Saint-Denis (a friend lives there, and lived in the very street this morning assault took place: the block is ruled by drug dealers; there's a school for young children, among which my friend's daughter, where it seemed impossible to have a teacher - the daughter's had more than 8 different teachers quitting one after the other this year when pupils her age only have one the whole year through... Neighbours wrote the minister that drug deals were there. No police was ever sent on a permanent basis. And today, the building that was raided was one ruled by drug dealers.

I've got to go to bed now, hope this has been fluent enough (I'm tired and don't wanna correct anything).

Screw it, the time to type the previous message, there had been 3 new ones...

Yes, and my friends ask themselves why the French media doesn't shed more light on acts of that kind when they happen in, say, Lebanon and black Africa (Boko Haram slaughtering hundreds and hundreds one people).
Kind of: support us, whoever you are, we'll only support those who look like us.

It's true that the outrages of Boko Haram get brief attention. You think; "That's awful but, better there than here". I'm sure the slaughter in Paris got a similar treatment in Nigeria; "That's awful but, better there than here".

People are pretty much the same no matter where you go. There's always some relief when the bad stuff doesn't happen to them. So no need to pay much attention to it.

In case you missed it:

http://theadvocate.com/sports/lsu/14...rian-immigrant

Baton Rouge received one Syrian refugee over the summer, a man Catholic Charities helped for a few days before he left to meet family in another state.

Catholic Charities said Tuesday the man is the only Syrian refugee they have helped recently, and Louisiana State Police confirmed he had left Baton Rouge for Washington, D.C.

But the news of that one man set off a flood of phone calls Tuesday to the organization, especially misinformation that made some people believe the man had gone missing, Catholic Charities Executive Director David Aguillard said.

One caller even made several threats while on the phone with Catholic Charities, especially against Syrian refugees. State Police said they are investigating the threats and take them seriously.

Sick people pontificating and making this some kind of pissing contest. NO ONE is more against Eurocentrism than me BUT this is embarrassing.. some people have their heads so far up their self righteous ass that its disgusting. I never thought I'd be so disappointed about people advocating about Africa or Middle East except for in this context..

huh

I don't get it.

Every one on social media is saying, "oh why should we care so much about Paris? Why not all the other bombings and attacks that happen?" And some have even took the opportunity in poor taste to say, "oh France deserved it because of their colonial history."

Its not a pissing contest, its not an either/or thing. And what happened in Paris is fucked up and deserves the attention.

what happened in Paris (full of wealthy white folks) has been happening for years in beirut, lebanon, Israel, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, etc etc etc, but since all those other countries are full of poor "brown" people, they merit no sympathy or mention in amerikkka's media circus.


THAT is what pisses people off about the over-the-top coverage of the Paris attacks.
Over

The TRUTH About Imagration......a WOW understanding in just six minutes.

Rob that is not really what pisses them off because (a) there is plenty of international coverage if people actually look for it and (b) its self righteous faux out rage that is simply trending. If it weren't trending people wouldn't have said shit.

Further some of the comments have been so tactless and insensitive it makes even me sick. Indeed its counter productive to advocacy and in particular seems like the most mean spirited hypocrisy like, "oh Paris you don't get our sympathy or condolences because we want to worry about other war zones that frankly last week we didn't give two shits about."

I do follow international news, there have been attacks in Beruit and Nigeria before last week, no trending no hash tags no faux outrage people didn't give a shit. That is the irony of it, Paris being so close to home grabbed their attention.

If people wanted to sincerely advocate about Nigeria or Beruit they would be saying things like they are in solidarity against ALL terrorism and making connections between Paris and the other attacks, NOT making it some kind of either or pissing contest for who deserves our attention. Indeed many good and sincere people have been doing just that.

Personally see the #Pray4... (other than Paris) movement as being just as crass and mean spirited as the #AllLives crowd

One minor yet obvious difference......Paris is a City that has been "glamorized and fantasized" in hundreds of movies over the years. For many, Paris is their "dream" vacation or the place of their Honeymoon. There must be thousands (heck, millions) of Americans who have framed pictures and artwork of the Eiffel Tower in their homes......ornaments on their Christmas trees.



People feel like they have a connection to Paris and can probably point to it on a map......not so sure about locations like, Beirut or Lebanon???

Beruit used to be a beautiful city too...

terrorism is terrible but there are much worse problems

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/...errorists.html

http://gawker.com/dumb-hicks-are-ame...eat-1743373893

^agreed. Agreed all over. 100%. The sickest thing is that, for whatever reason stupid republican (X) says indescribably stupid thing, there's always a host of constituents who just bob their heads and agree!!! This is not just about ignorant and/or downright evil politicians, it's also about blind, deaf and exponentially dumb American voters. Significant portions of the electorate, who agree with whatever dumbass thing their favorite hatemongering public official says.

About Paris: I'm not ready to talk about this yet. I work in a newsroom these days, so it's a major part of my professional life. I'm not ready willing or eager to bring that shit into my personal life.

One thing I do know: The French have a history of not putting up with bullshit. Of not allowing themselves to be bullied by any governmental force. Of thinking freely in a genuine way, as opposed to Americans. If anyone is going to respond appropriately, I trust the French to do so. And for the record I'm talking about the civilians, not the military.

i agree with suchfriends

rich white people love to start finger painting peace symbols and fuckwittedly hashtagging and posturing but this paris thing REALLY scared them because

ITS NOT SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN TO GOOD PEOPLE LIKE US WHO JUST WANNA ENJOY OURSELVES!

hairpiece here lost his usual smug british composure

the reaction out of euro so far has been rage and war lust. the head of the church of england confessed he almost lost his faith. the fact these attacks were coordinated and struck a concert venue and a sports stadium terrified people because their imaginary hedonistic refuges were lost.

we are in new territory here. it's a 3rd world war centred in iraq with all the major powers involved in a complex resource plundering mission which has produced a horrific suicidal death cult barbarism amongst people who have seen capitalism threaten to plunge them into 3rd world conditions or who already were 3rd worlders.

^ You know you're wrong about just about everything, don't you?

i didnt before but i definitely suspect i am now after the ominous hints contained in your response

+1. NPR isn't nearly as good as it used to be they have given Boko Harem atrocities and other terrorist acts against "nonwhites" plenty of coverage.

What fucking trash. Not only trashy but bigoted as well. So Paris is comprised of rich white people who want to drink wine and eat cheese all day? Hardly. That's like saying in response to drug cartels murdering people in Mexico "well they deserve it because they're all bandits anyway". Or dismissing sectarian violence in Ireland with "who cares they're all drunks". It's not a matter of ranking victims of terrorism based on leftist chic. The correct response is to abhor ALL acts of terrorism. But it's all just trolling to you. Don't you have anything better to do?

if what i said implied all that to you, you are closer to bigotry than me. also, the people who insist that all bigotry and crime has equal effect are the rich white people who suffer the least of it. the violence in paris, london and the usa has barely been a fraction of what it has in the middle east and claiming otherwise is bullshit

Paris does not look like this.






Everyone can still go to the Apple store and the market and the cafe and enjoy their fabulous cheeses....and can go to a memorial gathering without expecting drone strikes

Again, how does that make what happened in Paris any less a tragedy? Its not a fucking pissing contest, its the loss of human lives and wherever such occurs and in whatever circumstances is ALWAYS and universally a tragedy worth mourning

And by the way folks still going to Starbucks and Apple store in Damascus too.. war is always insane like that
http://www.worldcrunch.com/mobile/#a:20136

Disagree, hippy. If all the white supremacist groups of the world united to rumble with all the radicalized terror groups until the bloody pile of stupidity blocked the sun, I would fail to see any tragedy.

It'd be tragedy even then. Indeed hate groups that use violence WANT you to hate them in return, its their tactic. They WANT retaliatory violence, its their game.

Yeah, why is it like this? I'm fairly certain we're all level headed and mature enough to have a discussion about an event with this level of global significance without taking shots at one another.

Unless someone wants to take the stance that what happened in Paris was somehow positive/overdue/essential, I see no reason for animosity. This thread should serve as a place where we can process our thoughts in relative safety. Because I'll tell you-- talking about this issue in the "real world" is a bit of a dangerous game. You've gotta wear your public outrage face and not dig too deeply into the how & why questions, because you're likely to piss people off.

Can't we all just... not be assholes?

Because our US collective hivemind DOES NOT EVER MOURN the brown folks. we let hundreds of thousands die in Sierra Leone without a peep from the technocracy. activists and others tried sand tried to make people see the horror there but no one in power or in media gave a flying fuck, and you know why.