no, high heels would be totally impractical, i couldn't leg it from the crime scene if i was wearing high heels. i wouldn't want to get caught before i present the bricks in my degree show.

you think hairy legs and high heels is a good look?

If you ask me, shock art has it's purpose. It's one of many ways in which an artist can express and hopefully liberate him/herself from certain taboos or obstacles they encounter in their daily lives.
Most of us avoid the fact that the world isn't always as pretty as it seems. It's not only about love and happiness. Things can, and often do turn out horrible. Hunger, addiction, prostitution, war, death, etc.
A good artist will approach these issues in such a way, that it will make us think about the world we live in.

I do understand what you mean though. Some of them use the shock method, to gain personal attention or make us feel uncomfortable. It's the wrong approach, and will only lead to people rejecting the work with anger and disgust.

men with shaved legs look very strange indeed. tour de france.

...or in this case, boredom!

Whenever I go to a gallery and see work that makes me think and confront myself, I'm very greatful to the artist that made it. The reason for this is that it assures me that I'm not the only person dealing with hard issues.
The same goes for music. If I'm having a bad day, a Joy Division record can help me out of my depression. Works almost every time.

Boredom is one of the main reasons why most of us spend countless hours on this, or any other forum.
Nothing new.

don't be jealous. you didn't see what went on. it was fun for the unthreatened.

Be my guest. We're all entitled to 15 minutes.

Not me. I'm here because I enjoy the company of a handful of posters. My life is way too busy for boredom.

i think we've seen plenty of your "performance art"-- which by the way i have enjoyed while other people moaned & condemned your... post-o-rhea?

my point is that even bad art is better than cranky comments.

not that this thread was bad-- but saying-- even if it were--

so yes i want more forum performance art! of course porkie you'll have your share of detractors because somebody somewhere will feel threatened.

anyway, go ahead! show us!

not yet.

more please?

!!!thunder-stealer©

A little colour would do it some good.
Just a suggestion.

Anything that inspires 60+ replies must be worth something.

however many the replies, it's bad news when someone's joy & creativity get castrated.

Part of being an artist, is dealing with harsh criticism.
It goes hand in hand.

yes of course.

i happen to take the side of people who like to experiment and play.

so my criticism is directed at the critics.

i'm sure they can also deal, no?

if i call them

killjoy

killjoy

killjoy

i'ts just part of a broader debate.

ha ha ha--

thank you.

If you post your art in a public place, in such an in-your-face way, surely you're asking for, and expecting comment?

And should you expect just praise?

I genuinely didn't think it was art, but as somebody bored and doing some e-doodling. And as it wasn't confined to this thread, it was boring having to put somebody on ignore, just so I didn't have to wade through it in order to read other threads.

Reliable Pharmacy is an awesome troll.

Explain.

before anybody else says anything, yes, we have played with the quotations before, and yes, cantankerous did some other people did some and i did some too, but the point is:

it's good that people are still playing, dammit!

and whoever doesn't appreciate the sheer playfulness of this is a little dead inside

thanks for the soapbox.

seriously, you've spent too much time on the internet if you think that is art

i don't see where i came in & said "oooh look at this masterpiece, it will revolutionize human perception"--- nowhere, of course because i didn't. i think you're missing the point and perhaps i was too indirect, but all my post spoke of was playfulness. which is not allowed, apparently, on the internet. i meant my post as a vaccine of sorts beforre people started grumbling and moaning & feeling superior in their stolidness. that was all.

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Art Crimes

- In 2004, Elton Murphy, 49, killed Joyce Wishart, 61, in her downtown Sarasota, FL art gallery - stabbing her twenty times, and then leaving her body propped and posed to mimic a work of art hanging nearby on the gallery’s wall. Murphy, who says his full name is “The Lord God Elton Brutus Murphy” claims he is “God-like,” knows about aliens, has 1,000 followers who are under his control and has told a psychologist he has replaced the soul of his lawyer. He has claimed that he is perfectly mentally competent, is aware of his actions, and wants his trial to wrap up as soon as possible (DNA evidence linked him to the crime). The trial began in 2006 and is currently in progress.
- In 1985, police uncovered a .22-caliber rifle inside the Andrew Crispo Art Gallery in NYC, that was used to kill male model and Fashion Institute of Technology student Eigil Dag Vesti, 26, in that same year. Bernard J. LeGeros, 22, an employee at the gallery and personal assistant to Mr. Crispo, was convicted on second-degree murder charges of the model, whom he claims he killed on orders from Crispo. Vesti’s burned body was discovered on LeGeros’ father’s estate, wearing only a leather mask and shot twice in the back of the head. LeGeros is currently serving a life sentence. The dubious but well connected Crispo, then 42, was acquitted in this particular case. The flamboyant details of this infamous 80’s haut monde art world crime are bizarre and sickly glamorous, and are the subject of a non-fiction book (Bag of Toys, Warner Books, 1992) written by David France, and expanded from an article he wrote about the ordeal for Vanity Fair in 1988.
- In 1997, Irena Hatfield, director of the Lismore Regional Art Gallery, was arrested and charged with the 1985 shooting death of her husband Christopher at their Maroubra, Australia home. The rocky, complicated, erotic/revenge-driven case became an ongoing soap opera for the public, and the media reported the details of the lengthy investigation and trail extensively. Hatfield reverted back to her maiden name of Dobrijevich after she was acquitted of the crime in 2000. As well as writing a book about her ordeal (Irena, Harper Collins, 2001), and selling her story to television and film production companies, in 2006 she opened her own erotic-themed art and photography gallery, LushArt, in Surry Hills, Australia.
- In 2004, gallery owner Lori Haigh began receiving phone death threats, physical assaults and vandalism after displaying a painting at her Capobianco Gallery in San Francisco, which depicted the torturing of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. A few days after the controversy began, while Haigh was making preparations to temporarily close the gallery and avoid mounting trouble, a man knocked on the door of the gallery. When Haigh answered he punched her violently in the face, knocking her unconscious. The assault left her with a broken nose, injured eye and a concussion. The story became a political hot point, and the death threats towards Haigh increased and became more extreme. She has sinced closed up shop and has gotten out of the art gallery business.
- In 1911, the Mona Lisa, by Leonardo da Vinci, vanished out of the Louvre museum in Paris, France. Detectives discovered the painting’s heavy display frame discarded in a stairwell leading to one of the museum’s cloakrooms. The explosive crime naturally lead to much speculation and finger-pointing. Fiery, inductive surrealist Guillaume Apollinaire (who had once rallied for public torching of the Louvre) was jailed temporarily under suspicion of the theft, and Pablo Picasso was even held and questioned at one point - both were later released. But two years after it disappeared, it was discovered that Louvre employee Vincenzo Peruggia had stolen it, simply walking out the door with it hidden under his overcoat. He had been hired by con man Eduardo de Valfierno, who had secretly commissioned French art forger Yves Chaudron to make copies of the painting so he could sell them as the missing original. But Valfierno goofed by neglecting Peruggia (he actually didn’t need the original for the forging, just for it to go missing in the public’s eye). After keeping it in his apartment in Paris for two years, an angry and impatient Peruggia was caught attempting to sell it to a Florence art dealer. After a brief tour of Italy, the original painting was returned to the Louvre, more popular than ever.
- In 2004, a devastating fire broke out at art storage firm Momart’s warehouse on the Cromwell industrial estate in Leyton, England. Destroyed were many extremely valuable pieces of modern “Britart” owned by controversial British art mogul Charles Saatchi. Investigation later revealed that the warehouse was burgled before the fire broke out. The accumulative value of the works lost is estimated in the many millions, and the crime is still unsolved.
-In 1972, eventual serial killer Gary Gilmore won several prison art competitions (serving time up to that point for a youth spent mostly committing armed robbery and drunken, violent assaults). Those art awards, and a marked interest in bettering his IQ and an earnest, expressed interest in cultivating art as a life career prompted prison officials to grant him an early release for the sole purpose of attending an art school in Eugene Oregon. The inspiration was brief, as Gilmore didn’t attend the school or pursue art at all once out of jail - and was back to his scary, criminal ways within weeks of release. Gilmore would continue a downward spiral of serious crime and murder and end up on death row. He was executed by firing squad in 1977, before receiving a goodbye phone call on his last day from Johnny Cash, and also uttering the words “let’s do it!” A few remaining pieces of Gilmore’s work exist in a box at Utah State Historical Society in Salt Lake City, along with other artifacts from his incarceration.
- In 2006, a Buffalo high school art teacher, along with an off-duty Buffalo police officer friend, was charged with with second-degree reckless endangerment after parking in an area near several homes and businesses and firing rounds from a gun into an open lot. Suspension of the art teacher from the school is still pending (the officer was suspended without pay), and the only apparent motive in the case was boredom.