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Dead-Air 11.03.2008 11:19 PM

I've had to edit mine 3 times now. Somehow I forgot Sun Ra even though he's probably my single favorite musician and Space is the Place is my third favorite album of his. I also forgot Neu! and the Patti Smith Group.

batreleaser 11.04.2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn Curtain
1980.


i meant 'unknown pleasures', good catch

Kallisti23chaos 11.04.2008 12:55 AM

1.beatles -Let it be
2.Lennon-Imagine
3.Marley-Exodus
4.Jimi-Band Of Gypsys
5.Velvet Underground-Loaded
6.the Stooges -Raw Power
7.Joy Division-Unknown Pleasures
8.Can-Tago Mago
9.NEU!-Self-titled
10.Marley-African Herbsman

sarramkrop 11.04.2008 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dead-Air
I've had to edit mine 3 times now. Somehow I forgot Sun Ra even though he's probably my single favorite musician and Space is the Place is my third favorite album of his. I also forgot Neu! and the Patti Smith Group.


I've tried doing a list about 5 times yesterday and never got to number 10 without feeling like somehow I was leaving a lot of people out. That's why I've started a 60's one already 'cause with all that psych and garage stuff that I can't get enough of, it's going to be a very difficult one.

batreleaser 11.04.2008 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I've tried doing a list about 5 times yesterday and never got to number 10 without feeling like somehow I was leaving a lot of people out. That's why I've started a 60's one already 'cause with all that psych and garage stuff that I can't get enough of, it's going to be a very difficult one.


yeah, this has definitley been the hardest for me. I've gone back to edit mine like 5 times, and I have a top 50 with half of them tied. There's just so many records that are so important to me that came out in the 70s.

I can't wait for the 60s one either though; Free Jazz, White Light White Heat, Xenakis, The Stones, ESP-Disk, The 13th Floor Elevators, Psychedelia, Kick out the Jams, etc.. Should be a good one.

Glice 11.04.2008 01:58 PM

This was hard and I'm cheating a bit because I'm not sure if some of these were released or just written in the 70s. However, I was having a hard time thinking of 25 I genuinely love (so, no Funhouse/ Transformer) so I'm sticking with my half-cheating.

1 Morton Feldman - Rothko Chapel
2 Can - Tago Mago
3 Willie Nelson - Red headed stranger
4 Arvo Part - Cantus in memorium Benamin Britten
5 Throbbing Gristle - DOA - the 3rd and final report
6 Horatiu Radelescu - 'Infinite cannot be anti-infinite
7 Olivier Messiaen - Des Canyons aux Etoiles
8 Abba - Arrival
9 Augustus Pablo - Original Rockers
10 Philip Glass - Einstein on the Beach
11 Herb Alpert - Tijuana hits
12 Faust - IV
13 Lou Reed - Berlin
14 Bailey/ Parker/ Bennink - Topography of the lungs
15Carpenters - s/t
16 Steve Reich - 18 musicians
17Faust - Faust
18 TG - 2nd annual report
19 Dolly Parton - Jolene
20 Alvin Lucier - I am sitting in a room...
21 Dmitri Shostakovich - Symphony no 15
22 Xenakis - Pleiades
23 Kenny Rogers - the Gambler
24 Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music
25 The Upsetters - Cloak and Dagger

atari 2600 11.04.2008 04:27 PM

1 David Bowie - Hunky Dory
2 David Bowie - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars
3 Talking Heads - Fear of Music
4 The Rolling Stones - Sticky Fingers
5 Led Zeppelin - Physical Graffiti
6 Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks Here's The Sex Pistols
7 The Stooges - Funhouse
8 The Rolling Stones - Get Yer Ya-Yas Out
9 Talking Heads - More Songs About Buildings and Food
10 Talking Heads - Talking Heads 77
11 Pink Floyd - Meddle
12 Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin
13 Neil Young - After the Gold Rush
14 Brian Eno & Robert Fripp - Evening Star
15 The Rolling Stones - Goats Head Soup
16 John Lennon - Plastic Ono Band
17 The Cars - The Cars
18 The Beatles - Let It Be
19 Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
20 Al Green - I'm Still in Love With You
21 Neil Young - Tonight's the Night
22 Led Zeppelin - IV
23 The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main St
24 The Kinks - Lola Versus Powerman and the Money-Go-Round
25 Creedence Clearwater Revival - Cosmo's Factory
26 The Police - Regatta de Blanc
27 The Kinks - Muswell Hillbillies
28 Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here
29 Neil Young & Crazy Horse - Live Rust
30 Ramones - Ramones
31 Bruce Springsteen - Darkness on the Edge of Town
32 Patti Smith Group - Radio Ethiopia
33 Joy Division - Unknown Pleasures
34 David Bowie - Low
35 Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
36 The Velvet Underground - Loaded
37 Led Zeppelin - III
38 The Cars - Candy-O
39 The Who - Quadrophenia
40 The Doors - Morrison Hotel
41 Neil Young - Harvest
42 Led Zeppelin - Houses of the Holy
43 The Kinks - Preservation Acts 1 & 2
44 Al Green - Call Me
45 The Who - Who's Next
46 Neil Young - On the Beach
47 Marvin Gaye - What's Going On
48 Tim Buckley - Starsailor
49 Ramones - Rocket To Russia
50 Neil Young - Zuma
51 Big Star - Third/Sister Lovers
52 Public Image Ltd. - Metal Box
53 T. Rex - Electric Warrior
54 Creedence Clearwater Revival - Pendulum
55 Pink Floyd - The Wall
56 The Stooges - Raw Power
57 Led Zeppelin - II
58 AC/DC - Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
59 Tom Petty & the Heartbreakers - Damn The Torpedoes
60 The Police - Outlandos d'Amour
61 The Doors - L.A. Woman
62 Bob Dylan - Desire
63 Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!
64 Gram Parsons - Grievous Angel
65 Bob Dylan and the Band - The Basement Tapes
66 Bruce Springsteen - Born to Run
67 Nick Drake - Pink Moon
68 Gang of Four - Entertainment!
69 John Lennon - Imagine
70 Grateful Dead - American Beauty
71 Sly & The Family Stone - There's a Riot Goin' On
72 Can - Tago Mago
73 Derek & The Dominos - Layla And Other Assorted Love Songs
74 David Bowie - Aladdin Sane
75 Sparks - Kimono My House
76 Queen - A Night at the Opera
77 Stevie Wonder - Innervisions
78 Bruce Springsteen - Greetings From Asbury Park, NJ
79 Funkadelic - Maggot Brain
80 The Pop Group - Y
81 The Who - Live at Leeds
82 Elton John - Honky Château
83 Patti Smith Group - Horses
84 George Harrison - All Things Must Pass
85 Elvis Costello - My Aim Is True
86 Wire - Pink Flag
87 Television - Marquee Moon
88 The Clash - London Calling
89 New York Dolls - New York Dolls
90 John Cale - Paris 1919
91 Stevie Wonder - Songs In The Key of Life
92 The B-52's - The B-52's
93 Fleetwood Mac - Rumours
94 Neu! - Neu!
95 King Crimson - Red
96 James Brown - The Payback
97 Van Halen - Van Halen
98 Bruce Springsteen - The Wild, the Innocent & the E. Street Shuffle
99 XTC - White Music
100 The Rolling Stones - Some Girls

Glice 11.04.2008 04:43 PM

Just curiosity Mr 2600 - no Lou Reed?

atari 2600 11.04.2008 04:50 PM

Some of his solo records would be included in the top 200.

So would that third Carpenters self-titled...

Glice 11.04.2008 04:57 PM

Right you are. You're your own man, I can't argue with that.

atari 2600 11.04.2008 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glice
Right you are. You're your own man, I can't argue with that.



Naw, you're takin' that cake with Willie, Dolly and Kenny, you ecletic bastard.
hee

Kenny would not make a top 500 for me, but Willie and Dolly would most likely make a top 200. I don't know if Carole King's lauded Tapestry album would make a top 500, but Joni Mitchell's Blue would figure into a top 200.

And so on...
*(as annoying for me to write as it was annoying to read it)

Look, I know I have no Reich or Xenakis...but damn, there's just too many other great records. Rust Never Sleeps didn't even make it.

No The Runaways, & no Voidoids. I just listened to a '77 Richard Hell and it was okay, but then I relistened to this Hamburg '83 the other day and it's tremendous at times.

Wait until the 1960s when I'm torn between jazz and rock...gonna be tough.

I've stated it before, but David Bowie is the sound of the seventies. To a lesser extent, Pink Floyd and Led Zep are really up there. And continuing in this fast and loose fashion, those marvelous Pistols who aspired to best them all, albeit in their own way, are irrepressibly landmark.

Maestro Taylor and The Stones are definitely Upper Pantheon...

and so on...*

Pookie 11.04.2008 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
46 Marvin Gaye - What's Going On

Almost certainly top ten for me is I could be bothered.
Quote:

Originally Posted by atari 2600
50 Creedence Clearwater Revival - Pendulum

Always one of my least favourite Creedence albums, but I've been listening to and appreciating it a lot more recently. Their sixth album in the space of two years. An incredible output of amzing tunes.

batreleaser 11.04.2008 06:46 PM

CCR put out better stuff in the 60s, I love them though.

Pookie 11.04.2008 06:50 PM

Other than their eponymous debut (not a great album) they released all their albums in 1969 and 1970. Actually that's also ignoring Mardi Gras which was a very poor album.

1968 - CCR
1969 - Bayou Country/Green River/Willy & The Poor Boys
1970 - Cosmo's Factory/Pendulum
1972 - Mardi Gras

uhler 11.05.2008 01:33 AM

i completely redid my list cause i forgot a lot of stuff and that includes chrome. whom i keep forgetting released two of the greatest albums of the 70's. after listening to entertainment! today i realized that the specials or syd barrett's the madcap laughs weren't my favorite albums of the 70's.

25. can- tago mago
24. the stooges- funhouse
23. television- marquee moon
22. syd barrett- barrett
21. the jam- in the city
20. the pop group- y
19. kebekelektrik- s/t
18. neu!-neu75
17. bumbleebee unlimited- sting like a bee
16. suicide- s/t
15. kraftwerk-trans-europe express
14. wire- chairs missing
13. the ramones- s/t
12. the germs- gi
11. pil- metal box
10 the slits- cut
9. the raincoats-s/t
8. neu- neu!
7. swell maps- a trip to marineville
6. wire- 154
5. devo- q:are we not men? a:we are devo?
4. the specials- s/t
3. syd barrett- the madcap laughs
2. tie:chrome- alien soundtracks/half machine lips move
1. gang of four- entertainment!

Dead-Air 11.05.2008 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
I've tried doing a list about 5 times yesterday and never got to number 10 without feeling like somehow I was leaving a lot of people out. That's why I've started a 60's one already 'cause with all that psych and garage stuff that I can't get enough of, it's going to be a very difficult one.


Yep, I just edited mine again to put in Big Star's 3rd album. Which of course won't get enough votes to make the final cut, if anyone else lists it at all. And by putting it in, I knocked out The Voidoids who probably will make the group list. But for some reason I find myself extremely compelled to have my list be an accurate reflection of my own favorites even if that means I put in one or two that nobody else will.

lechaoscestmoi 11.05.2008 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
yeah, this has definitley been the hardest for me. I've gone back to edit mine like 5 times, and I have a top 50 with half of them tied. There's just so many records that are so important to me that came out in the 70s.

I can't wait for the 60s one either though; Free Jazz, White Light White Heat, Xenakis, The Stones, ESP-Disk, The 13th Floor Elevators, Psychedelia, Kick out the Jams, etc.. Should be a good one.

same. not to mention pet sounds, piper, in the court of, safe as milk, the white album.. fuck. i love the 60's.

sarramkrop 11.05.2008 06:11 AM

Throw Sly Stone in too.

radarmaker 11.05.2008 08:56 AM

This thread needs more Modern Lovers love.

Pookie 11.05.2008 09:36 AM

I always found Jonathan Richman a bit annoying.

jimbrim 11.05.2008 09:39 AM

1. The Fall - Live At The Witch Trials
2. Wire - Pink Flag
3. Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
4. John Fahey - America
5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
6. The Clash - The Clash
7. The Fall - Dragnet
8. Crass - The Feeding Of The 5000
9. African Dub - Almighty: Chapter 3
10. Ivor Cutler - Jammy Smears
11. Big Youth - Natty Cultural Dread
12. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports
13. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
14. Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
15. Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
16. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
17. Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
18. Henry Cow - Leg End
19. Israel Vibration - The Same Song
20. Sun Ra - Astro Black
21. The Slits - Cut
22. Doctors Of Madness - Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms
23. The Vibrators - Pure Mania
24. Magazine - Real Life
25. The Raincoats - The Raincoats

Pookie 11.05.2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
8. Crass - The Feeding Of The 5000

Over Stations..?
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
10. Ivor Cutler - Jammy Smears

Over Dandruff?
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
11. Big Youth - Natty Cultural Dread

Over Screaming Target?
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
21. The Slits - Cut

Excellent choice.


As you were.

jimbrim 11.05.2008 09:51 AM

They're all records my Dad owned, so I guess it's more of a nostalic thing. Plus I haven't heard Dandruff yet, so I'll look into that.

radarmaker 11.05.2008 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
I always found Jonathan Richman a bit annoying.


I can understand that and can't get away with any of his later albums, but that first Modern Lovers LP is a stone-cold classic.

gualbert 11.05.2008 01:02 PM

4.Magazine-2nd hand daylight.

batreleaser 11.05.2008 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
1. The Fall - Live At The Witch Trials
2. Wire - Pink Flag
3. Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
4. John Fahey - America
5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
6. The Clash - The Clash
7. The Fall - Dragnet
8. Crass - The Feeding Of The 5000
9. African Dub - Almighty: Chapter 3
10. Ivor Cutler - Jammy Smears
11. Big Youth - Natty Cultural Dread
12. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports
13. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
14. Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
15. Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
16. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
17. Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
18. Henry Cow - Leg End
19. Israel Vibration - The Same Song
20. Sun Ra - Astro Black
21. The Slits - Cut
22. Doctors Of Madness - Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms
23. The Vibrators - Pure Mania
24. Magazine - Real Life
25. The Raincoats - The Raincoats


excellent list dude, i need to add the raincoats

batreleaser 11.05.2008 03:33 PM

you guys need more dead boys, only nyc punk band that actually sounds like PUNK.

uhler 11.05.2008 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
excellent list dude, i need to add the raincoats


yes you do need to add them. i'm glad i'm not the only one who will put them on my list. hopefully they get in the top 25 now.

uhler 11.05.2008 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
1. The Fall - Live At The Witch Trials
2. Wire - Pink Flag
3. Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
4. John Fahey - America
5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
6. The Clash - The Clash
7. The Fall - Dragnet
8. Crass - The Feeding Of The 5000
9. African Dub - Almighty: Chapter 3
10. Ivor Cutler - Jammy Smears
11. Big Youth - Natty Cultural Dread
12. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports
13. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
14. Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
15. Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
16. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
17. Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
18. Henry Cow - Leg End
19. Israel Vibration - The Same Song
20. Sun Ra - Astro Black
21. The Slits - Cut
22. Doctors Of Madness - Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms
23. The Vibrators - Pure Mania
24. Magazine - Real Life
25. The Raincoats - The Raincoats


someone else who put swell maps, the raincoats and the slits in their top 25! great list.

pokkeherrie 11.05.2008 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pookie
Almost certainly top ten for me is I could be bothered.


Top five for me... if I could be bothered.

batreleaser 11.05.2008 05:22 PM

Yeah I love Swell Maps too. FUCK!!! this is taking forever. Did "Jane From Occupied Europe" come out in the 70s?

Pookie 11.05.2008 05:24 PM

1980

uhler 11.05.2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
Yeah I love Swell Maps too. FUCK!!! this is taking forever. Did "Jane From Occupied Europe" come out in the 70s?


1980. i forgot them in the 80's thread.

toxic johnny 11.05.2008 05:53 PM

I snoozed through the 80's best of, but could not resist this one.
Also I haven't looked at anyone else's after the first page... so I'm sure that more will occur to me...

S/t - Suicide
Blank Generation - Richard Hell And The Voidoids
No New York - V/a
20 Jazz Funk Greats - Throbbing Gristle
Y - The Pop Group
Metal Box - PIL
Metal Machine Music - Lou Reed
Here Come The Warm Jets - Eno
The Rise And Fall Of Ziggy Stardust - David Bowie
A Trip To Marineville - Swell Maps
Lick my Decals Off, Baby - Captain Beefheart And the Magic Band
Alien Soundtracks - Chrome
Raw Power - The Stooges
Desert Shore - Nico
Radio Ethiopia - Patti Smith Group
The Modern Dance - Pere Ubu
The Raincoats - The Raincoats
Killer - Alice Cooper
Unknown Pleasures - Joy Division
S/t - This Heat
(GI) - The Germs
Secondhand Daylight - Magazine
Dragnet - The Fall
Electronic Meditation - Tangerine Dream
Kimono My House - Sparks

Pink Flag - Wire
The Scream - Siouxsie And The Banshees
Tago Mago - Can
Loaded - The Velvet Underground
Lucifer Rising - Bobby Beausoleil And The Freedom Orchestra
S/t - The Modern Lovers
Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! - Devo
S/t - The New York Dolls
Marquee Moon - Television
S/t - The Ramones
Electric Warrior - T.Rex
S/t - Neu!
Cut - The Slits
Glamour Girl 1941 - Smegma

Dead-Air 11.06.2008 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
1. The Fall - Live At The Witch Trials
2. Wire - Pink Flag
3. Swell Maps - A Trip To Marineville
4. John Fahey - America
5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom
6. The Clash - The Clash
7. The Fall - Dragnet
8. Crass - The Feeding Of The 5000
9. African Dub - Almighty: Chapter 3
10. Ivor Cutler - Jammy Smears
11. Big Youth - Natty Cultural Dread
12. Brian Eno - Ambient 1: Music For Airports
13. X-Ray Spex - Germfree Adolescents
14. Buzzcocks - Another Music In A Different Kitchen
15. Dr. Feelgood - Down By The Jetty
16. Kraftwerk - The Man Machine
17. Throbbing Gristle - The Second Annual Report
18. Henry Cow - Leg End
19. Israel Vibration - The Same Song
20. Sun Ra - Astro Black
21. The Slits - Cut
22. Doctors Of Madness - Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms
23. The Vibrators - Pure Mania
24. Magazine - Real Life
25. The Raincoats - The Raincoats


I can't believe I'd forgotten Live at the Witch Trials. Edit #7 now...

Saint_Huck 11.06.2008 04:35 AM

1 - Nico – Desertshore
2 - No New York

3 - Joy Division – Unknown Pleasures
4 - The Pop Group – Y
5 - Alice Coltrane – Universal Consciousness
6 - Miles Davis – On the Corner
7 - Don Cherry – MU
8 - Bob Marley & the Wailers – Catch a Fire
9 - Pere Ubu – Dub Housing
10 - Magazine – Real Life
11 - King Tubby – Dub from the roots
12 - David Bowie – Low
13 - Brigitte Fontaine & Areski Belbacem – L’incendie
14 - Neu! – Neu!
15 - Robert Wyatt – Rock Bottom
16 - Suicide – s/t
17 - Cluster – Sowiesoso
18 - Caetano Veloso – Transa
19 - Television – Marquee Moon
20 - Captain Beefheart – Shiny Beast
21 - Augustus Pablo – Meets King Tubby and the rockers Uptown
22 - Tony Conrad with Faust – Outside the Dream Syndicate
23 - Karen Dalton – In my Own Time
24 - Mulatu Astatque – Mulatu of Ethiopia
25 - Wire – Pink Flag


26 - Vashti Bunyan – Just another diamond day
27 - Fania All-stars – Live at the cheetah!
28 - This Heat – This Heat
29 - Amon Düül 2 - Yeti
30 - Nick Drake – Pink Moon
31 - The Stooges – Raw Power
32 - Comus – First Utterance
33 - Univers Zero – Univers Zero
34 - Art Ensemble of Chicago – Les Stances à Sophie
35 - Ash Ra tempel – Schwingungen
36 - The Slits – Cut
37 - Gong – Camembert Electrique

38 - Guru Guru – UFO
39 - Fred Neil – Other Side of This Life
40 - Harmonia – Deluxe
41 - XTC – Drums and Wires
42 - Siouxsie and the Banshees – The Scream
43 - Gang of Four – Entertainment
44 - Brigitte Fontaine – Brigitte Fontaine
45 - Os Mutantes – A divina Comedia ou ando meio desligado
46 - Mahmoud Ahmed – Ère Mèla Mèla
47 – Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
48 - The Raincoats – s/t
49 - Faust – Faust IV
50 - Triana – El Patio


Death & the Maiden 11.06.2008 05:28 AM

1. Television - The Blow Up
2. The Saints - Eternally Yours
3. Ramones - It's Alive
4. Television - Marquee Moon
5. The Clash - London Calling
6. The Saints - Prehistoric Sounds
7. Laughing Clowns - Laughing Clowns (mini album)
8. Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks...
9. Pink Floyd - The Wall
10. The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
11. Public Image Ltd - First Edition
12. The Stooges - Fun House
13. The Clash - The Clash (UK Version)
14. Siouxsie and the Banshees - The Scream
15. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV
16. Buzzcocks - Another Music in a Different Kitchen
17. The Cure - Three Imaginary Boys
18. Can - Tago Mago
19. Tangerine Dream - Phaedra
20. The Slits - Cut
21. Ramones - Ramones
22. Ramones - Rocket to Russia
23. Gang of Four - Entertainment!
24. Public Image Ltd - Metal Box
25. New York Dolls - New York Dolls

That was difficult. And it's not my final list.

batreleaser 11.06.2008 10:30 AM

godamn it, i forgot fucking alice cooper too! what is wrong with me?

tesla69 11.06.2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by batreleaser
you guys need more dead boys, only nyc punk band that actually sounds like PUNK.


they were from cleveland weren't they?

batreleaser 11.06.2008 01:35 PM

jesus christ for the last fucking time, yes, they were from and started in cleveland, but they moved to nyc as of 77 and became involved in the nyc punk scene, therefore they are more often considered a NYC band by fans.


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