Very serious. Can you elaborate as to why they sound similar, or why it's obvious for everyone who's into Sonic Youth to be automatically into MBV too? I'm not sure I get your point.

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i don't think it's that crazy an idea for somebody to like sonic youth and not mbv, sy is a pretty well known/visible group and i don't think it would be strange for somebody to listen to them who usually likes folk or jazz or whateverthefuckelse and not automatically care that something is an "alternative classic"

ZeroAuthecre answer the question and don't go into hiding!

Exactly. Also, I don't hear any traces of Sonic Youth in MBV, plus they have a meagre body of work compared to them. And not that interesting in retrospect. I'm sure I'm not alone on this boat.

Right. MBV are definitely at the bottom of the list as far as shoegaze bands go. I'd much rather listen to Lovesliescrushing (and related projects), Slowdive, Swervedriver, Fleeting Joys, Swirlies, etc...

And MBV don't sound anything like any era of SY.

I disagree. Though MBV may not be as good as people say it is, I still think they're the best shoegaze band. Slowdive are fantastic - especially Pygmalion - but I don't think they're better than MBV.
And I ain't even talk about neo-shoegaze bands who are almost all shit to me

SYRFox is incapable of explaining why they are better than most, though.

Yeah, they're not better, they're just more popular. You could argue more "important" but I don't necassarily think pop songs with noisey production and a bunch of guitar layers was something MBV invented. I mean, the Jesus and Mary Chain's "Psychocandy" came out in 1985 -- though I don't think it's that great of a record and I don't really think of them when I think of shoegaze, they did stuff MBV did waaay before MBV. That's not even mentioning bands like Cocteau Twins (who are more dream pop to me but definitely layed down the foundation for MBV's sound... in 1979 or so!) or even Ride's "Nowhere" (which came out a year before Loveless).

Really, the best thing I can say about MBV, besides their harmony vocals on a few songs, is that LOVELESS has a great album cover.

Because I think they are. I ain't saying that they are better than most, I just say that I think they're better. They touch me more. Songs like "When You Sleep", "To Here Knows When", "Lose My Breath", "No More Sorry", "You Made Me Realise" reach to my ears a sonic perfection which no other shoegaze band has reached.

My brother listen almost EXCLUSIVELY (and when I say exclusively, it is) to shoegaze bands, so I have a pretty clear opinion about it.

Ah.

"Touched".

Like the song!!

You could have written ''I Love MBV, Oh My God!' and spared yourself the above post, which isn't saying much.

I don't see why I should say more. I don't have to explain myself on why I love a band . I love their music, that's fine by me. I'm not a super MBV fan. I did not drive 200km to see them in Paris when they played there in 2008. I just happen to like their records - and I don't enjoy, for instance Cocteau Twins record that much.
If you want a full detailed essay on why MBV is so good, there's already tons of writings everywhere for that

dude, forget about the essays. If you say you disagree with something, you don't necessarily have to write 3 pages to explain why, that's all.

Okay

Porky style.

hahahaha

I'm sorry to have to agree with this.

First time I listened to Loveless I wasn't that wild about it, but I listened to it on shitty headphones on a portable cd player.
Listen to that bitch on a good stereo. It's still growing on me, I have to admit, but I can really see the greatness.

you gotta say "BIATCH".

i like their early eps a whole lot. the rest of their stuff is okay.

i will say that "loveless" is a good album when only on shrooms.

I'm viddying MTV's 120 Minootas one late Sunday evening, and the swishy Brit DJ veck is all govereeting all gushy like about the debut viddy of some band called My Bloody Something, and onto the telly screen pops Only Shallow, and oh my droogies, it is Glorious and Praise to Bog, and Your Humble Narrator practically tolchocks himself into the music-disc store next morning oh pleading and sighing with the clerk-veck behind the counter for that horrorshow disc with the krovvy-colored cover art. I was cured, for sure.

You're right I don't think they sound like SY. And also thanks for the bands I really like shoegazing music I gotta check out those bands.

Best. Post. Ever.

Yeah, it really was.

I think their EPs are the best things that they've released: You Made Me Realise, Glider, Tremelo. I think these are perfect whereas Isn't Anything and Loveless have a few boring songs on them.

In terms of music texture, I'd say they're very similar. MBV were obviously very inspired by Sonic Youth.

i like their earlier more "twee" releases, but those eps are their best later output.

So it's official then, EVERYONE who has ever existed has now expressed an opinion on MBV? Well done, the world.

This thread is getting dramatic.

nope, not me

Ecstacy and Strawberry Wine are great, and I think the Sunny Sundae Smile EP is just perfect! Kevin remixed Paint A Rainbow for some Indiepop compilation, so I hope the EP appears on that EP compilation which he's apparently working-on but which will probably never be released. The Dave Conway-years definitely shouldn't be dismissed on the basis of their first Cramps-like album where he's doing the weird vocals (I enjoy it anyway).

They are in the long run a good band. Who cares if Slowdive are obviously better? Or if they sound like Sonic Youth or not? Sonic Youth and My Bloody Valentine are two of the biggest bands in the alternative scene so it's no wonder that their fans overlap. I'm a fan of both actually.

Question, when did it become cool to start saying 'alternative' again?

I dunno, I'm just using the word to group together bands.

Apparently not.

Mary Broadwick from Hornchurch, 56 years old: ''What a load of bollocks, I'd rather listen to dear old Tom Jones, at least he knows how to write a tune without sounding constipated''

Ross Moss from Southgate, 68 years old: ''I don't believe this!''

haha!

James, originally from Maidstone, 24 years old: ''Fuck Off!''

His Dog: ''Yeah, Fuck Off! Cunt.''

The dog later complained his quote was taken out of context, however.

yeah a little too much

i love mbv, always have done but jeez..... like enough already!