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notyourfiend 11.11.2009 09:37 AM

sway, you can't always pull yrself up by yr boot straps if you have no boots to begin with

Genteel Death 11.11.2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
all waitresses deserve tips, in the us at least. just by virtue of the fact that they get paid less than $3 an hour.


I electronically share the tips of all waiters here at work and they all get the same, unless you are a manager, in which case your wages more than make up for it. Or if you are a kitchen porter, in which case you get paid more than the waiters anyway. The chefs get one share between them, if they are put on the tronc list by their supervisors. As I am the tronc master, I have to call a meeting every now and then to check that there aren't any problems, and more often than not there is a bit of aggro between the kitchen staff and the front of house staff as to why one area gets individual shares, and another gets one for all.

Satan 11.11.2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
sway, you can't always pull yrself up by yr boot straps if you have no boots to begin with

some people are dealt a shitty hand. so make something of yourself. this is america for christ's sake. don't rely on the government for everything.

phoenix 11.11.2009 09:43 AM

I would rather my taxes be used to pay someone benefits ( provided they have some kind of intention of getting back into work or study ) than have people struggle and end up as drug runners or whatever they decide to 'make of themselves'

meh. It's so easy to lose everything. I just think it's wrong in a civilised society to completely ignore someone who through bad luck or misfortune has had to start over.

don't know what that has to do with health insurance. sorry.

Satan 11.11.2009 09:45 AM

this thread was never really about health insurance anyway.

phoenix 11.11.2009 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
no, we work to pay our bills.....but there are plenty that choose to not pay.


we do have the tendancy to over indluge a bit. people do shit here like take out loans to go on a F U C K I N G VACATION. you cant afford a vacation? go to the park and read a fucking book moron.



I'm not sure it is the majority, though?


and... that is a cultural thing. "We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires, and movie stars, and rock gods. But we won't"

you know..

Satan 11.11.2009 09:48 AM

i don't want my money going to anyone else if i don't know exactly who it's going to and for what purpose. hence i am ethically opposed to taxes as well. i'll gladly give a bum on the street a fat stack of cash because i know what it's going towards. he's a bum, he wants to go get high. i don't have a problem with that. poor dude's a bum, the least i can do is buy him a big ass crack rock.

Genteel Death 11.11.2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
this thread was never really about health insurance anyway.


I thought that it was pretty obvious that it was another ''me me me'' thread. Who do you think you'd fool with that?

Satan 11.11.2009 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
im willing to bet every american on this board with an exception of maybe crypto knows someone that has had their utilities cut off or had a car reposssed.

i can give you names + addresses if you want.

broke mfers.

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
I thought that it was pretty obvious that it was another ''me me me'' thread. Who do you think you'd fool with that?

oh porky, i can't pull the wool over your dreamy eyes.

floatingslowly 11.11.2009 09:51 AM

let's stop this madness, hold hands and sing Born in the USA together.

I can feel the pride surging through yr sweaty palms.

Satan 11.11.2009 09:53 AM

i like talking to them a lot. way more interesting than 'regular' people.

floatingslowly 11.11.2009 09:53 AM

something something something foreign land something something kill the yellow maaaan.

verme (prevaricator) 11.11.2009 09:53 AM

by being uninsured, you're actually more expensive for the state, so they'll charge you charge for that.
seems fair.

notyourfiend 11.11.2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
no, we work to pay our bills.....but there are plenty that choose to not pay. YES, people will spend their money foolishly on booze/fun/clothes and act like assholes when their lights are cut off. i dont have time for this sort of shit.

have i ever been late on a bill? YES. im not a saint, i pay it when i can though. ive never had a car reposesed. ive never even been threatened w/ being evicted. ive never had my lights cut off.

i HAVE been so poor to where i chose to buy cigs over food. my choice....but my lights were still on at the end of the month.

we do have the tendancy to over indluge a bit. people do shit here like take out loans to go on a F U C K I N G VACATION. you cant afford a vacation? go to the park and read a fucking book moron.



you know, a large problem here is education. a lot of these people never had any sort of financial training.

Satan 11.11.2009 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by verme (prevaricator)
by being uninsured, you're actually more expensive for the state, so they'll charge you charge for that.
seems fair.

they can't charge me if i'm unemployed.


i'm just going to be a burden on all of you.

lol.

phoenix 11.11.2009 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
they can't charge me if i'm unemployed.


i'm just going to be a burden on all of you.




but this is america. just make something of yourself. :confused:

Satan 11.11.2009 09:57 AM

i'm gonna be my own boss babe. i told you that.


"unemployed"

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by floatingslowly
something something something foreign land something something kill the yellow maaaan.



? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLtyT2moYgU

verme (prevaricator) 11.11.2009 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
i'm gonna be my own boss babe. i told you that.


"unemployed"

seems exciting.

!@#$%! 11.11.2009 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
btw the reason i'm pissed is because we aren't given a choice/freedom. isn't america supposed to be about freedom and the right to CHOOSE? i simply don't need health insurance. so why should i have to pay for it? good luck getting your greedy paws on my money, pigfuckers.

the worst part is that shit isn't any better anywhere else. i lament coming back here and then i remember that life sucks no matter where you are and who's telling you what to do.



it's the same as having car insurance when you drive. if you crash your insurance covers your fuckup. when you show up at the emergency without insurance, and they treat you, and you can't pay, some other sucker is paying for it with their insurance.

i'm sure even at your age you've had the case when you needed coverage but you didn't have insurance and you had to suffer. it could have been worse and you might not be posting here today.

so, everyone getting insurance is like everyone paying a tax so we can all stay alive a little better. same as we pay taxes that cover roads, the fire department, the cops, food safety controls, etc, etc. *not having your own insurance is a threat to others*.

this "freedom" thing is glenn beck bullshit. stop drinking his kool-aid and think about it. your employer's probably been feeding you such shit cuz they don't wanna pay their employees coverage.

pay for your fucking insurance and the next time you have a problem you'll be well cared for.

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
I once got bombarded for using the term rape to describe global issues of human trafficking. I think that's a much better example of "rape" than the Obama administration taking a little bit more out of our paychecks to help cover us if we get seriously ill.


you didn't get bombarded, your choice of word was simply refuted, if i recall (just like the choice of bombarded). ah, semantics!

.....

a bazillion more pages from this thread-- not sure i wanna read all

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:04 AM

My posts weren't meant to heat at all.

Genteel Death 11.11.2009 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
i'm gonna be my own boss babe. i told you that.


"unemployed"


You come from a wealthy family, according to the many things about yourself that you write on this board. It's more likely that you can afford to be unemployed, that's all. Satan's blog entry number 10089494949494 on Wed 11th of November 2009.

Satan 11.11.2009 10:06 AM

no, !@#$%%!!$#!. i know what i'm going to do. i realized today that in order for me to be happy AND successful, financially speaking, and not feel cheated and fucked by these nazis i have to work outside of their system. fine by me.

!@#$%! 11.11.2009 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
they can't charge me if i'm unemployed.


i'm just going to be a burden on all of you.

lol.


you still pay a penalty, and DON'T get insurance.

i'm sure a small percentage of your drug money could be diverted to the safety net of insurance. you could OD with peace of mind! ambulances are expensive & all.

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
fucked by these nazis



The american govt has definately done some pretty woeful things, I'm not sure this would be super high on the list though? Having a tanty over this compared to actual supression/violence etc..

notyourfiend 11.11.2009 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you didn't get bombarded, your choice of word was simply refuted, if i recall (just like the choice of bombarded). ah, semantics!

.....

a bazillion more pages from this thread-- not sure i wanna read all


haha, bombarding wasn't the right word...semantics and all! :D

the point was that referring to obama's health care plans as rape is ridic.

and yeah, i agreed with the rest of what you said!

!@#$%! 11.11.2009 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notyourfiend
the point was that referring to obama's health care plans as rape is ridic.



oh hell yes. i love satana but she sometimes get on some crazy rants. i'm sure she'll end up with some sweet coverage that sends helicopters when you twist your ankle, like paris hilton.

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
and the aussie govt has done some really pleasant things too having our backs and all.


thanks.



I agree, but not really what I was pointing out, or trying to..

Satan 11.11.2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by !@#$%!
you still pay a penalty, and DON'T get insurance.

i'm sure a small percentage of your drug money could be diverted to the safety net of insurance. you could OD with peace of mind! ambulances are expensive & all.

YOU CAN'T OVERDOSE ON WEED

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Originally Posted by Genteel Death
You come from a wealthy family, according to the many things about yourself that you write on this board. It's more likely that you can afford to be unemployed, that's all. Satan's blog entry number 10089494949494 on Wed 11th of November 2009.

half of my family is wealthy. i don't have any contact with them, for the most part. do you know where a lot of that money went to? me. do you know what i did with it? i spent it, a lot of it anyway, because i could. i'm starting over kind of. i don't know how many times i've said this. when i was little we didn;t have SHIT, my dad makes bank but it took him a long, long, long time and a lot of schooling and kissing ass and working his way up to get where he is now and i don't get any of it. and you know what? i don't deserve to. but i've experienced both extremes of the money spectrum in my life and i can honestly say i'd rather have the money to wipe my ass with.

Satan 11.11.2009 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by phoenix
The american govt has definately done some pretty woeful things, I'm not sure this would be super high on the list though? Having a tanty over this compared to actual supression/violence etc..

IT'S NOT THIS. it's THEM.

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
IT'S NOT THIS. it's THEM.



thems issues. sorry.

Satan 11.11.2009 10:15 AM

is it not okay to hate the government or something? fuck that. i loathe.

phoenix 11.11.2009 10:16 AM

nah Im just teasing.

!@#$%! 11.11.2009 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
YOU CAN'T OVERDOSE ON WEED.


well shit, yesterday you loved cats, today you wanna get rid of them, who knows what you'll be on in 6 months.

plus, VDs, car crashes, knife fights (*cough*), all manner of risks when you're young. i was in 2 nasty car crashes when i was 20-21, luckily just needed stitches but a friend needed a cast. and look at crypto's friends, one story after another getting smashed in their cars or falling off windows & shit.

for some conditions you maybe don't need a doctor, but a fucking vitamin supplement can't fix your broken bones or resuscitate you in an emergency or stitch your broken face or give you a kidney transplant. shit happens. even when you're 19. eventually we all die anyway, but why be unnecessarily crippled and in pain.

gmku 11.11.2009 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan
(if you have a legit job) the government is probably most likely going to force you to pay for health insurance. whether you like it or not.

and i don't fucking like it.

i'm quitting my job. i know how i'll be making my money for the rest of my life now. thanks obama. prick.




do we already have a thread about this? fuck it. this is the thread now.


I've lost what little respect I thought I had for you. Health care reform isn't for dumb snotty fucks like you who think they're too good to give a little for the welfare of others. It's for those who deserve adequate care but can't afford it.

Health care is essential. If you don't want it, go let your teeth rot out and your body go to hell.

Satan 11.11.2009 10:20 AM

i don't know what it's like in oz and of course we all have different political views. surely it's just as bad as it is here but you guys don't seem to get pissed off quite so easily.

!@@#$$!#$#$ when i say freedom i don't mean fuckface glenn beck's idea of freedom. i mean absolute, complete, no-strings-attached, no interference freedom. to be free. the most incredible feeling in the entire world.


gmku, go get laid. really.

!@!$$, ive never had VD. not what the hep was from.
the cats have been pissing me off for ages. too many of them and they're all assholes because of the little bitch. gotta go.


if i die, i die.

!@#$%! 11.11.2009 10:20 AM

i'm pissed off about the abortion restrictions by the way, it's fucking unfair, way to pander to the fucking conservatives, but it's the only way the bill was going to pass. i'm hoping that the restrictions will be lifted at a later date, sons of bitches.

gmku 11.11.2009 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by swa(y)
and i just lost a LOT of the respect i had for you. grandfather talking shit to a 19 year old...how sexy.


I'll talk shit to whomever I want, you dumb redneck.

pbradley 11.11.2009 10:21 AM

Yeah, the health care bill is a bit of over compromised bullocks but if you're going to leave your comfy government job perhaps you can mention me as a replacement?

Satan 11.11.2009 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by gmku
I'll talk shit to whomever I want, you dumb redneck.

goddamn, how much shit is in your diaper this morning?


oh yeah !@#$$#$@#%#% did you not see that he BROKE MY FUCKING TURNTABLE?!?!


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