that's what ive been trying to say all along



vom in my mouth.


i can't with you.

crack is wack

The premise of the thread is all wrong, Satan. You assume that workers are not used to paying for health care (many of us have for decades). You also assume that workers don't want to pay for health care (sort of like not wanting to pay for rent or food, but what can you do?). Wrong on both counts, I assure you.

On the other hand, if you're truly against paying for mandatory health care, you're probably doing the right thing for yourself by not working (legit). Your choice.

of course he wins. but you know that what he wants (i want that too)--- would be deemed even more "NAZI" but the repukecunts, don't you? it would have no chance to pass in this congress.

they repukecunts and the fucking conservative yellow dog democrats are ok with mandatory insurance cuz you have "freedom" to choose from a private provider, but if it's all from the government (what rob wants and i want) it's "nazi" and "socialism" and what the fuck.

yeah, that's their fucking level of brainwash and propaganda, and even you are repeating the fucking words they put out there to block any kind of change.

freebase really is the way to go

the premise of the thread is to spark 15 pages of angry words.

am I the only one that can read?

you better be glad you're not sick and a jew.




wait. ARE YOU?


that's the ticket.

I'm adopted. that's worse than both.

freebase is crack with fireworks beforehand.

Best post of the thread!

Satan obviously has anger issues. Something she could afford to deal with if she had adequate health care.

quick! somebody talk about walmart before we lose momentum!

nooo you're an outcast then. you're one of us.



you know, i think i'm just going to start a cult. anyone who wants to join is welcome as long as you're not sick or a jew. or a sick jew. god forbid. those are the worst.

I'll gladly join your cult, as long as adopted people are welcome. just not those self-righteous adopted fucks. MY PARENTS WUB ME HURR DURR BEING ADOPTED MEANS I'M COOL

I've skimmed most of the last ten pages. Not much worth reading.

Ha ha! Hey, Walmart's a great place to save for the holidays! Get out there and shop Walmart so this place can continue to pay its dirt-poor overworked employees.

2nd best post. It's the usual smattering of wise-ass remarks from kids off their meds.

So true.

As either a military, state, or fed employee for most of my life, I've been fortunate to have some of the best insurance available. And still, going to the doctor is expensive. You still have to pay co-payments on everything from a simple office visit to an extended hospital stay, prescriptions, etc.

Only when I was in the Air Force was everything free, for both me and my family. Ideally that's the way it should be.

Any way, it's Veterans Day. Soldiers died for our way of life. To me that includes the ideal of access to decent health care.

I've already been scouting sites for a compound in Texas.

my cult only has a few rules:

• aliens are here to have sex with us. we
must all do our part to assist them.

• drugs are mandatory.

• healthcare is against our religion.

• we like Knox.

so, seeing as healthcare is against our religion, how long before the ATF breaks in, steals our alien-hybrid children and makes a mockery of us in CNN?

while there could be some competitive princing and offers, there is no incentive whatsoever for them to offer insurance to people who are already sick. that has to be mandated and i'm glad it will be done.

the insurance company is just a fucking middleman. they don't provide healthcare. they just take your money, skim off the top, and then make it a bitch to pay doctors. doctors need to have extra people on the staff just to deal with the fucking insurance claims, or they would never get paid. it's a fucking ugly racket and i'd be happy to be rid of it.

i much rather trust the government to provide a service (like the fire department and the cops and the roads) and then if you want extra perks you can buy your own (like people have private security, helicopters, etc). but again, "we don't trust the government", cuz of some obscure fucking superstition, but we trust the big fucking corporations, right?

i'm for the free market for most things but some things need to be collective or they won't work-- roads is one, army is another, and health care too. in the meantime, i'll take whatever i can get, even if i disagree with having to give my money to some corporate vulture.

this post didn't add anything either.

Ha ha. Have any of them?

let's roll.

best post.
no, that was the point.

Somebody should delete the entire thread.

are you kidding me? this is a goldmine.



lol at you guys talking real shit.


what a waste of time.

No doubt. Would you mind if I said that some of your posts were interesting?

Here's a picture of a politician:

More like a compost pile.

exactly, that's a mandate-- 'you must provide". hell yeah.

about vehicle insurance-- people who have too many accidents are offered policies that are unaffordable. so you can quit driving and take the bus or take cabs or have someone give you a ride-- some break the law and drive without insurance.

you don't have that option with your life. well, you could say "hey, my fucking cancer has raised my premiums to $20K a month, so i think i'll eat a bullet now".

sure a lot of health care is self-inflicted and people could use some incentives to exercise, eat right, lose weight, etc. but a lot of it is random and fucking tragic and this IS a moral issue, not just a business one. you can't throw people to the dogs just because they are not in perfect condition.

about the government not getting more involved, i disagree-- i fear big business more than i fear the government. the government may be flawed, but health insurance companies are fucking vultures with no interest whatsoever in the public good. they just want money, and it's profitable for them to take money and deny you coverage or find some other way to fuck you or your doctor.

bytor and !@#$%! killed it.



thanks a lot guys.

that wouldn't change your first post but let's not dwell on it


ha ha ha, that's a fast improvement

youre welcome

walk away safe while everyone is distracted!

I now see Satan in a completely different light. Sigh... .

Too bad Satan isn't living the rich life like she used to. At least, then, her noncommittal self-interest would make sense.

let's quote the funny girl


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i think this thread is finally dead now.

soon.

you know what is the most successful insurance program out there? It pays off doctors more than any other, it covers more people than any other, it covers more procedures than any other?

MEDICARE and MEDICAID. It is what is used by all our senators and representatives and they LOVE IT. Most private health insurance pays off to doctors about 50% of what they should. medicare and medicaid pay off around 80%. It covers things such as prosthesis for dsifigured peoplr, alternative therapies, etc.

FUCK private health insurance. it is a crock of SHIT

to add one dependent on my work insurance (atena) it costs me $745 a month. a FUCKING MONTH!
it is insane. $745 x 12 = $8940
that is more than the yearly amount you would pay for standard doctors visits, and preventive care! fuck!