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Bertrand 11.13.2015 05:33 PM

All over again: killings in Paris tonight 11/13
 
Bombings by the Stade de France while France was facing Germany in a soccergame. 4 dead.
Meanwhile, fuckers kill in the center of Paris. Reporters can't say much regarding casualties...
Meanwhile, fuckers burst into the Bataclan, where Eagles of Death Metal were playing, and shoot, kill. 15 dead.
Confusion everywhere. Hostages in the Bataclan? When people were attending a gig? How many more?

Bertrand 11.13.2015 05:57 PM

Nope; I work there; I have friends in the area though...

Bytor Peltor 11.13.2015 06:15 PM

I've been reading / catching up on this story over the past hour......for those in the area, STAY SAFE!

Sky News Live

Shootings At Eagles Of Death Metal Concert - Multiple People Dead
 

Bytor Peltor 11.13.2015 06:21 PM

BREAKING: French President Francois Hollande announces he is closing France's borders


Devastatingly real......CNN reporting people are live tweeting from inside the theater beggin police to raid as hostages are being slaughtered 1 by 1

 


 


 

Bytor Peltor 11.13.2015 06:40 PM

0030 Paris time, police assault underway at Bataclan.

Reports multiple shooters from the concert hall balcony.

SYRFox 11.13.2015 06:51 PM

awful, awful, awful

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.13.2015 06:58 PM

Whoa... this is insane news. Over 45 dead and counting :(

Bytor Peltor 11.13.2015 07:00 PM

@deepquest: #Bataclan hostage situation secured. 2 terrorists killed. Few SWAT injured during the assault. #FusilladeParis

Bytor Peltor 11.13.2015 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert Schunk
I'm hearing 100 dead at Bataclan.



Before today, I only knew Bataclan as the venue for some of my favorite live concert albums......reports that the French President has just visited Bataclan.

The Omni Hotel is Dallas is lit up like the French flag tonight.

 


 



For those who may need info / help:
 

_tunic_ 11.14.2015 08:57 AM

I've been to the Bataclan five years ago, Low was playing there as support act for Mercury Rev. Here's my recording of Low's set. To be honest I don't recall much anymore about how the venue was like. But it had very good sound. I've more fond memories about the Thurston Moore night a couple days later at La Villette who was headlining for Half Japanese and Glenn Branca.

I'm really shocked about what has happened, and seeing the video of people running out of the back exit of the building. A Dutch guy who was at the concert had been hiding under a pile of dead bodies for some time.

Bertrand 11.14.2015 10:29 AM

I went at the Bataclan 3 years ago for Shellac. I arrived early to be as close to the stage as possible. It wasn't sold out. I've had time to see the place.

I've been crying sporadically for a while now, knowing what the place looked like doesn't help.

EVOLghost 11.14.2015 10:46 AM

This is just awful

Bytor Peltor 11.14.2015 03:15 PM

Concert poster for the Bataclan show last night:
 


Don't believe this is from last night, just an example of what the full venue looked like:
 


Map of all six locations that were attacked:
 

dead_battery 11.14.2015 06:04 PM

maybe they just really liked the eagles?

Antagon 11.14.2015 07:21 PM

Absolutely horrific. And I dread the consequences this is most likely going to have. There will be more fear-mongering, more baseless accusations and xenophobic slogans by the far right, that's a given. And governments may feel the pressure to lean towards a far more reactionary position. In the wake of 9/11, fear and incertainty reached a point that enabled the Patriot Act, two wars and a slew of measures that radically changed the face of individual freedom. This has the potential to usher in some more absurd and completely irrational actions. And it's already getting abused to rally against the refugees who only seek to flee situations like this one. It's sickening.

In other, or let's say very similar news: Bombings in Bourj el-Barajneh, a suburb of Beirut leave between 37-43 dead.

Bytor Peltor 11.15.2015 02:55 AM

Bataclan Video: The Moment The Shooting Starts

RIP Nick

 

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.15.2015 03:02 AM

Here is the problem, when the serpent tempted Adam and Eve it wasn't necessarily like what they did wasn't really themselves. "The devil made me do it" is never really the whole truth. We are tempted by our own worst selves. So in actuality both are right. The totalitarian police state will always have a natural justification to crack heads and there will always be assholes who provoke such. And then such will always provoke retaliation by those victimized by power, but its a circle.. we are always back in the Garden facing the same bad decisions

"The subverts became politicians and finally got the underhand.. meanwhile back in Subvert City someone is writing on the wall FUCK your government spray paint hero in Subvert City its subvert rule..."

dead_battery 11.15.2015 08:25 AM

they were just mad queens of the stone age werent playing

relax yall

evollove 11.15.2015 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antagon
There will be more fear-mongering, more baseless accusations and xenophobic slogans by the far right, that's a given.


My dumb ass made the mistake of listening to some conservative talk radio. Brutal stuff.

I'm pretty sure America is going to start rounding up every Muslim in the land and putting them in camps, just until we can get this whole thing sorted out.

If you can't imagine Obama issuing such an order, how hard is it to imagine Ben Carson doing so?

Bytor Peltor 11.15.2015 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
If you can't imagine Obama issuing such an order, how hard is it to imagine Ben Carson doing so?


The earliest Ben Carson or any other candidate that may end up President can issue such an order would be January 2017......if anything is going to be done, it will need to be way before then!

evollove 11.15.2015 10:49 AM

You're right. What was I thinking? Immediate vigilante attacks on Syrian refugees is the way to go.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.15.2015 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead_battery
they were just mad queens of the stone age werent playing

relax yall

Just stop it. This pathetic even by your standards

dead_battery 11.15.2015 04:49 PM

but i changed my facebook picture to a croissant im helping right?

Genteel Death 11.15.2015 05:26 PM

Nick, you're too old to be a troll now.

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.15.2015 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dead_battery
they were just mad queens of the stone age werent playing

relax yall

This is low even by your standards

Drjohnrock 11.15.2015 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
You're right. What was I thinking? Immediate vigilante attacks on Syrian refugees is the way to go.



There obviously is going to be neither an executive order rounding up Muslims nor widespread "vigilante" attacks on Syrians in this country. This sort of discussion is such a red herring. The emphasis should be on the victims of the attacks in France and their families and friends , as well as retribution, which France is already doing with their attacks on the ISIS scum in Syria. I have absolutely no sympathy for the pieces of shit that carried out or facilitated the murders in France. No set of circumstances justifies committing murders in the name of your "religion".

Bertrand 11.16.2015 06:58 AM

Going to work today was really strange. The subway's never seemed so silent and odd.
A minute of silence was programmed in every government-ruled institution, including mine. Viewing those minutes on tv during football games, you usually have somebody too eager to speak up to have that whole minute kept for grieving. Today, it was the opposite: noone dared break the minute of silence which seemed to last wayyy longer.

The attack took place while people were not at work.
I believe meeting everyone's colleagues, more and more people, will help in the end.

We had planned to go out wednesday night in a restaurant.
We've cancelled (we can't force people to go there if they're scared); the restaurant didn't judge us; 90% of their clients do cancel (there was a 300 people meeting programmed that night).

SYRFox 11.17.2015 03:17 AM

yeah Paris was super weird yesterday... I live in Oberkampf (Bataclan neighbourhood) and noticed tons more people using bicycles, as if nobody wanted to use the subway. People were riding erratically as well, as if everyone was out of their mind. going back to uni was also strange - even the teachers seemed not to be able to speak at all. I felt the same during our minute of silence.
good luck for today Bertrand - I guess it's gonna be another strange day..

_slavo_ 11.17.2015 10:51 AM

It's awful. The world is becoming a shit place.

Rob Instigator 11.17.2015 11:45 AM

there are still sunsets, beautiful music, sticky lambsbread, etc.

It is all cycles. Religion will always feed a certain level of obsessive personality that seeks to shove their beliefs down everyone's throats.

Rob Instigator 11.17.2015 11:45 AM

It wasnt that long ago that Catholic "terrorists" were blowing up Protestants in merry ol England....

SuchFriendsAreDangerous 11.17.2015 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
It wasnt that long ago that Catholic "terrorists" were blowing up Protestants in merry ol England....

True and while very similar that was different. The "Troubles" was more overtly a political conflict than a religious one. While these IS attacks are also very much politically motivated they are also more overtly veiled in religious imagery

Rob Instigator 11.17.2015 12:46 PM

it is ALWAYS similar but different, and it will never end until people stop seeing their own personal beliefs as mandates for the rest of the world to follow.

Rob Instigator 11.17.2015 12:48 PM

but no one really cares until people "like themselves" get hurt. Tens of thousands of brown, "heathen" Syrians have been murdered by IS and such assholes but no one gave a flying fuck until "white" Europeans are hurt and killed. Hundreds die each month in Beirut, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. The powers that be really do not give a fuck as long as our petroleum keeps flowing....

tesla69 11.17.2015 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
The powers that be really do not give a fuck as long as our petroleum keeps flowing....


and heroin

evollove 11.17.2015 01:20 PM

Are people angry in Paris? Has there been an increased interest in anti-immigrant, neo-nazi movements? Or is it just sadness and quiet reflection?

From what I can tell, a loud segment of the US population can't process events very well. Now and then a political opinion comes along that is so heartless, so unbelievably "How do you manage to feed yourself?" stupid, that I just want to puke and cry. Republican governors trying to prevent Syrian refugees is a good example.

Rob Instigator 11.17.2015 01:55 PM

when your mind is full of only commercials and brain-numbing local news, it cannot process the big picture.

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2015 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evollove
Are people angry in Paris?


I'm curious about this and hope one of the locals from SYG will share their thoughts. From a few things I've read, it doesn't sound like many are angry.

Bytor Peltor 11.17.2015 07:57 PM

Video: Turkey fans boo moment of silence for Paris attacks, then chant "Allahu Akbar"

 

_slavo_ 11.18.2015 01:59 AM

Football fans have a high affinity to be idiots.


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