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Jt 04.20.2007 02:16 PM

Shoegaze
 
Following yet another MBV thread, I figured I'd get started finding out what people's favourite album from the scene in question is.

For me, it isn't Loveless. It's Souvlaki by Slowdive - another favourite of a lot of boarders. It's a masterpiece.

Anyone got any better ideas?

Savage Clone 04.20.2007 02:17 PM

Ride's "Nowhere" and the first Slowdive EPs.

king_buzzo 04.20.2007 05:09 PM

Enlighten me a little in this.

atsonicpark 04.22.2007 12:10 AM

Loveliescrushing - [anything]
MBV - Isn't Anything
Slowdive - Pygmalion
Swervedriver - Mezcal Head
Swirlies - Blonder Tongue Audio Baton (it's like shoegaze math rock!)

those are my shoegaze jams.

fluxequalsrad 04.22.2007 01:43 AM

Green Day - American idiot

SYRFox 04.22.2007 02:14 AM

I think both Isn't Anything and Loveless are the best albums of the scene, short followed by Souvlaki and Pygmalion by Slowdive (Just For A Day is good but isn't as great, I mean without the bonus CD of the 2005 reissue, because it makes him as great too, with all these songs from the firsts EP)

Everything's Alright Forever by Boo Radleys is also great, Nowhere from Ride too.

In young bands, my favorites are Amusement Parks On Fire and Experimental Aircraft

Trasher02 04.22.2007 02:28 AM

The Swirlies are amazing.

pbradley 04.22.2007 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SYRFox
Experimental Aircraft

ooooooo :)

PAULYBEE2656 04.22.2007 03:22 AM

shoegaze.. i hate tha term but it does fit the bill!
mbv are obvious
ride- nowhere and the 4 pre nowhere e.ps
swirlies- blonder tounge
slowdive- just for a day (much better album than souvlaki)
curves early e.p.s
lush- the e.ps and gala album more so than spooky
verve- storm in heaven (so good until they addedthe "the"
chapterhouse- whirlpool
catherine wheel
telescopes
cocteau twins- can they be lumped into here for heaven and las vegas era?
and the mighty seefeel!!!!

king_buzzo 04.22.2007 04:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trasher02
The Swirlies are amazing.


:cool:...

atsonicpark 04.22.2007 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by king_buzzo
:cool:...

:cool:

e_s_d 04.22.2007 06:24 AM

Yeah 'shoegaze' is a crap name that doesn't fit many of the bands involved.

Album: A.R. Kane, "i"
anyone?

atsonicpark 04.22.2007 06:27 AM

nah, the name shoegaze rules.

PAULYBEE2656 04.22.2007 08:39 AM

a.r. kane- wasnt he responsible for 4ads only number one hit...
m/a/r/r/s/ pump up the volume???????????????????

PAULYBEE2656 04.22.2007 08:41 AM

flying saucer attacks distance is also a great shoegaze record.
medecine, cant remember the name of the album
moonshake- pre stereolab boogie moreso than shoegaze

moose- the jack e.p.
wonderful band before they turned all country and stuff.
boo radleys everything alright forever and giant steps before they turned all shit on us...

velocity girl- copacetic (i think)
can we count his name is alive- home is in your heart?

LDopa 04.22.2007 09:31 AM

MBV - Loveless
and I really like this new band called LSD and the Search for God. Really great modern shoegaze. I've been listening to their EP a lot lately.

auto-aim 04.22.2007 09:41 AM

I always use the term shoegaze to describe my bands music and no one ever knows what im talking about. I don't know if some people will hate me for saying this but what about Siamese Dream to be decribed as a shoegaze record?

LDopa 04.22.2007 10:21 AM

No, I wouldn't call it that, but it does have very spacey sounding shoe-gazeish moments.

jimbrim 04.22.2007 10:45 AM

Galaxie 500 - are they classed as shoegaze?

king_buzzo 04.22.2007 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by auto-aim
I always use the term shoegaze to describe my bands music and no one ever knows what im talking about. I don't know if some people will hate me for saying this but what about Siamese Dream to be decribed as a shoegaze record?


No, I dont think you should call that a shoegaze record. Go with alternative.

I love the term shoegaze, its awesome

The Lung 04.22.2007 03:08 PM

Catherine Wheel's 'Chrome' is a good one to check out. Slowdive's early EPs and Isn't Anything are my favorite shoegaze releases though.

SonicSam 04.23.2007 04:08 AM

Souvalaki is really good, but I wouldnt call it my favourite SG album purely for the fact that there are 2 or 3 not so good tracks, mainly the more electronic songs. Cool that other people like swirlies on this board, san cristobel is one of my favourite songs. A good new band (If you can call them shoegaze) they sound like hum.

sun city girl 04.23.2007 05:36 AM

best albums:

1. my bloody valentine - isn't anything
2. boo radleys - everything's alright forever
3. pale saints - in ribbons
4. ecstasy of st theresa - susurrate

PAULYBEE2656 04.23.2007 06:11 AM

forgot about pale saints... nice call

PAULYBEE2656 04.23.2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbrim
Galaxie 500 - are they classed as shoegaze?


no way, they are too wonderful to be shoegaze!!!!!!!!!!

new shoegaze... may i add windy and carl to the list?

_slavo_ 04.23.2007 06:46 AM

You've forgotten about this splendid record:

BOWERY ELECTRIC - B E A T


 


It's like nothing I've ever heard before or after it...so eerie and hypnotic. A perfect record when you come back home drunk and your head's full of emotions. A beautiful one.

jico. 04.23.2007 07:13 AM

slowdive - souvlaki
lush - split
curve - doppelgänger
ride - nowhere
chapterhouse - whirlpool

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 07:18 AM

Curve were not a shoegaze band, Moose weren't either, Chapterhouse were considered garbage even then, and so were Cathrine Wheel. Good call on Bowery Electric, even though they aren't/weren't a shoegaze band either. The first three tracks on Souvalaki are really good but the rest of the album leaves quite a bit to be desired. As for the new breed, Lali Puna are a good band, not strictly shoegaze but they take inspiration from it and do some good things.

_slavo_ 04.23.2007 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Curve were not a shoegaze band, Moose weren't either, Chapterhouse were considered garbage even then, and so were Cathrine Wheel. Good call on Bowery Electric, even though they aren't/weren't a shoegaze band either. The first three tracks on Souvalaki are really good but the rest of the album leaves quite a bit to be desired. As for the new breed, Lali Puna are a good band, not strictly shoegaze but they take inspiration from it and do some good things.


BE might not have been shoegazer band, ("Lushlife" is far far from shoegaze record), however "Beat" sounds very shoegaze.

_slavo_ 04.23.2007 07:38 AM

As for a great recent shoegaze-sounding record, I'd also mention this one:

GLIFTED - UNDER AND IN


 


It's basically an offshoot of the members of the American band Hum. I'm not at all a fan of Hum, but when I heard this CD, I really stumbled...Really catchy guitar riffs, drowned in endless wash of layers and MBV-like feedback loops, great melodies and dreamy atmosphere. A must-have.

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _slavo_
BE might not have been shoegazer band, ("Lushlife" is far far from shoegaze record), however "Beat" sounds very shoegaze.


The good thing about them is that they took inspiration from the genre, rather than just mimicking the poses or the 'cathedral of sound' thing. I don't know if Drop Nineteens have already been mentioned. Some good songs on this album, even though they ripped off MBV quite a bit:
 

jico. 04.23.2007 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Curve were not a shoegaze band, Moose weren't either, Chapterhouse were considered garbage even then, and so were Cathrine Wheel. Good call on Bowery Electric, even though they aren't/weren't a shoegaze band either. The first three tracks on Souvalaki are really good but the rest of the album leaves quite a bit to be desired. As for the new breed, Lali Puna are a good band, not strictly shoegaze but they take inspiration from it and do some good things.


curve - horror head

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jico.
curve - horror head


I suppose the indie- dance crossover with tinges of goth genre has never been given a category all its own.

_slavo_ 04.23.2007 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jico.
curve - horror head


Horror Head is a beautiful song.

jico. 04.23.2007 08:06 AM

hahaha

i admit, all i have listened from that album are the 30 sec song samples(amg ones), (LOL, haha)after listening to the song samples on amazon, i found out a totally different album. LOL

what pork said its true...

it's more like a shoegaze inspired album, little things that you can notice here and there...

sun city girl 04.23.2007 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
Curve were not a shoegaze band, Moose weren't either, Chapterhouse were considered garbage even then, and so were Cathrine Wheel.

what? moose were definitely shoegaze, as a matter of fact i've heard that the whole term shoegaze originated from a review of a moose gig where the singer had lyrics attached to his shoes... but of course they were musically shoegaze only in the beginning, 2 or 3 first ep's. chapterhouse were great until their second lp, but you're right about catherine wheel.

sarramkrop 04.23.2007 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sun city girl
what? moose were definitely shoegaze, as a matter of fact i've heard that the whole term shoegaze originated from a review of a moose gig where the singer had lyrics attached to his shoes... but of course they were musically shoegaze only in the beginning, 2 or 3 first ep's. chapterhouse were great until their second lp, but you're right about catherine wheel.


The story about Moose is true, i was referring to the fact that by their first album the shoegazers status started going amiss. I've never liked Chapterhouse and i've found them heavily derivative of the whole scene that was about at the time. Another band i remember being around was Scorpio Rising from Liverpool, not a great one. The singer went on to form Plastic Fantastic and kick-started the whole short-lived Romo movement.

MellySingsDoom 04.23.2007 11:46 AM

I'd just like to say that I saw Slowdive once, and they were the most motherfucking boring band it's been my displeasure to see, ever.

SonicSam 04.23.2007 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swa(y)
slowdive sux something serious.


slowdive are one of those bands that I worship, but can understand why people hate them at the same time.

Jt 04.23.2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sarramkrop
first three tracks on Souvalaki are really good but the rest of the album leaves quite a bit to be desired.


Yeah, try track seven:

Here

You can still buy this album so that track won't be up long. But if that's not an incentive to buy the thing I don't know what is...


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