You gonna lie to your kids about Santa someday?
 

Like your parents lied to you?

santa is a lie. its a way of parents making children to be good.

Yes

No, I wasn't traumatized. I sort of knew from quite an early age, but I kept believing their lies to hang on to it. But I always sort of knew Santa wasn't real.

I kind of hung on to it so I could ask Santa for presents and I could also ask my parents for presents.


edit: Porkmarras- I mean when you have children (I guess if you adopt), when it comes Christmas time (if you celebrate Christmas) are you going to tell them about a big jolly fat man that gives toys to good children?

Nope, I'm going to tell them right from the beginning that there's no such this as the fat man in red.
I'm going to celebrate Christmas but it's not exactly going to be "Christmas" cause I don't believe in God or any of that crap. It'll be my own little holiday. That's right.

You said exactly what a million/billion people said in the last 3 minutes without knowing why.Here's your brownie point.Now,fuck off!

i dont either, but christmas is funnnnn!!!

Festivus?

Yeah it is, but I refuse to let my kid grow up without knowing that Jesus was really just a normal guy raised by a bunch of wackjobs to believe he was the son of God. If I'm going to go about raising my kid that way, why would I also go through all the trouble of celebrating Christmas and Santa when they're directly linked to God?
I think of something clever instead, I've got a couple years time anyway :o

yeah, but i dont want my kids to miss out on the magic that is christmas

*shrugs*

Me neither really. It's a sacrifice I'm willing to make though.

mmh...

I'll let my kids believe in the wonders of Santa. To do otherwise is to rob them of a beautiful innocence that all kids deserve. You either 'lie' to your kids about Santa, or you rob them of innocence at an early age. The latter is worse. You people weren't all that scarred from your parents letting you believe Santa was real, were you? I'm glad my parents let me believe.

Christmas had and still has nothing to do with religion to me.

I can't remember ever really believing in Santa. My first memories of questioning the whole thing are from age 5. It's not as gigantic of a lie as the one about the magical man in the clouds who will watch over your deeds for your entire life though.

I'm not having kids anyway, so I suppose my opinion on this matters very little, but if I did, I doubt I would go along with this charade.

No I wasn't really scarred. But I could see that some children may trust their parents less due to it. I'm afraid they might not heed my warnings that "heroin and promiscuous unsafe sex is bad for you" or take all of the philosophy that I teach them to be utter bullshit that they should never consider or something because of one huge lie.


Awwww, that's cute.

exactly

They'll just take up heroin and fucking at an earlier age 'cause they were stripped of their childhood innocence.

20 years from now, the ice in the poles will be melted and reindeers will be extinct, so...

I think I'll make my own story up.

I'm going to tell my kids that a giant possum warps into people's houses and magically makes presents appear. I will then explain to them how the whole "santa" story is a fake, but not to let other people know, or he/she will not get presents from the Christmas possum.

It will be genuis, the kid will think he knows more than the rest of the world and that others are in denial of the truth by having the whole "santa" story. Plus they'll probably like the fact that it's a possum as oppose to an obese guy that wears red.

I'd lie. I mean it's a fun lie and it makes the kids happy.
I first found out he wasn't real when I was pissed because my grandparents gave me some crappy presents and I was pissed cause I thought that santa brought these gifts. "Stupid santa I asked for a goddamn hotwheel car not a sweater!"

Good point Norma J! I'm going to have orchestrate the Christmas lie really well. I'm going to tell them the reason that they don't get homemade toys is because kids kept asking for manufactured toys. So instead he struck a deal with the keebler elves and his elves work all year round making cookies for Keebler, raising money to buy gifts in bulk from distributors. My kids are going to get an economy lesson when I tell them about Santa.

You're getting repped inhuman!


Ummm, melting ice in the poles with disrupt the current flow in the Atlantic and will drastically lower temperatures creating a new ice age.

The earth is a powerful force, we can't fuck it up nearly as much as we think.

its a lie but who cares?

hmm, I don't even want to imagine what Al Gore's kids believe after hearing this. And thanks for the rep!

you people telling the truth about santa are going to be really boring parents... spoiling the magic and fantasies that only little children posses. it's like reading them the newspaper as bedtime story because fairytales aren't real.

Once again Kegmama drags a thread up by its nads and gives it life and soul.

Let's just get on and vote her queen of the universe.

(Special mention to crypto for having a sense of fun...)

My mom always told me what I wanted for x-mas never said anything about santa. I would lie to my kids just to believe in something magical, I mean the world is pretty fucked up to not believe in something.

I always loved the idea of Santa, but by about the time I started remembering Christmas' my mom got sick and Christmas' were just no fun in the hospital.

yeh ill tell them santa is real, i wont incorporate Jesus and that sht, but ill just talk about the fat red man, its awesome seeings the kids so excited. And i remember when i was a kid believing in santa, its fun, and something nice in the world.

haha, a few days ago my friend's little brother asked how the reindeer fly, and I said they sniff a little white powder as a joke and his dad found it hilarious, and he believed me.

I'm never having children.

Well that works out convenient for you then, Hayden. Unless you were thinking of having a bowel-baby.

You know what I meant. I'm never adopting a child.

lie? what do you mean? i've told them the truth, don't you know that santa lives in finland?




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joulupukki

Oh, come on. I'm getting a bit sick of all the humbuggery on here. You want Christmas presents but you don't want any of the beliefs and customs that go with it? Why do you bother? Why don't you just live Christmas like any other day, and moan that the shops are shut because of this stupid Christian festival?

I'll be giving my children a lesson in history and religion (see the following) that lets them know that Santa, although an amalgam and not a real person, still represents the "spirit of Christmas."

We've had this same topic before at Christmastime, and I wrote the same thing.

Truth is stranger than fiction.


http://www.souledout.org/christmas/s...anicholas.html

















Just one of many stories demonstrating his holy reputation is about an angel who appeared to the cardinal appointing a new bishop for the Turkish town of Mira, with a face bright like the sun, who told the cardinal to ordain the 30-year old Nicholas.
Through his priesthood in the early Christian faith, even while alive he came to be recognized for his generosity to all those in trouble. In his good-doing role as priest, one story tells of Nicholas, who took pity on a girl in his parish whose family had no dowry. Had Nicholas not intervened, this would have prevented her from marrying. He made a parcel of money from his family's coffers and donated it anonymously to the young woman and her future by throwing it in through the open window, where it is said to have landed in her stocking. This type of event occurred more than once, and Nicholas became known for late night gifts, and the granting of wishes.
A miracle of his legacy is the story of three young students who were robbed and dismembered on their way home from school, and stuffed in a pickle barrel. Nicholas is said to have appeared out of nowhere, and the boys arose at his command, intact.

In a French village during the 12th century, local nuns honored their patron on December 6, which became St. Nicholas Day. The nuns delivered candy to all the children who'd been good, leaving it for them in their shoes, and leaving switches in those of the naughtier children. Because they seemed to cover so much territory, some began to say it was St. Nicholas himself who delivered the gifts.
By medieval times Nicholas had become the most beloved patron saint of Europe, and through the middle ages, the story of Christmas in Europe developed to combine religious and pagan myths.
















When Luther created the Protestant church, he realized it would be necessary to wean German children off of St. Nick, so he created Krist Kindle, the winged Christ cherub, who also flew and brought gifts to good children—but which instead focused the celebration around Christ. He came on Christmas Eve at Christ's birthday, which more closely coincides with the Winter Solstice, around which pagan religion celebrated the return of the Sun's light.

why lie when things like this happen!

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22122006/35...n-s-party.html

Firstly, I don't know why I even bother, but...
The planet has certainly demonstrated over eons of time that it can assimilate quite a bit and it is true that no one truly knows how much more pollution that it can, in fact, safely assimilate.
However, most credible science does confirm that we have already entered a period of climate change. I don't care what your feelings are towards Al Gore; personally, I feel he's shifty and would never vote for him. The fact is that nitrogen has increased in our atmosphere exponentially since the Industrial Revolution and the oceans have warmed consistently and will continue to do so and that this will have potentially catastophic consequences unless it is addressed. Most scientists, in fact, claim that we have reached a point now that there is no stopping global warming no matter what we do to try to rectify the imbalance.
There are, however, promising new studies with phytoplankton (which absorb solar energy) being conducted, but again, if we remove or alter the plankton, then it will damage other parts of the ecosystem because food for marine life will be diminished.

sorry nefeli. i had to laugh even though i tried not to. poor kids.

no, i don't think so.
i would just give them their presents right away.
and then , i supposse, they'll go around telling everyone that santa doesn't exist. and then the parents of those kids will probably call home to insult me a little bit.

Well, in the case you don't think another ice age could be brought about by global warming (which would kill off most of human population) we are eventually going to have a volcano worse than krakatoa erupt, block out the sun, kill plants, kill us, etc.

Not that the human race wouldn't survive, but there'd be huge setbacks.