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Originally Posted by FreshChops
have you ever personally been threatened by the presence of a gun or are you just shivering from reading google facts? how has guns affected your life?
The whole "but citizens aren't sane and balanced enough to possess guns" is going nowhere. that can be said for anything. I have to drive roads with these very people. We're all sold cars that can get up over 100 MPH, anyone can buy lighters and matches, I can buy rat poison... all of these potentially deadly items that are routinely trusted in hands of americans daily. How does it make you sound to just say.... "I think americans don't posses the sanity to handle firearms, therefore I don't want anyone to have them"? That sounds like a high-schooler's angst. Where do you draw the line? How do you feel about cross-bows? bows & arrows? slingshots?
You love to flaunt the "highest murder rate in the world" stat but you failed to address the aforementioned factors of drug epidemics, poverty, unemployment rates population densities and other factors as the root of the murder stats. If you're shallow enough to just overlook all of those factors in contrast to other industrialized countries, you're issues with guns (as you see them being the culprit) is just a jaded and convenient cop-out to the true factors behind your numbers.
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To answer your question, yes I have. I'm entirely sure that I would be dead now if I carried a gun and attempted to do anything, the same goes to a lot of people I know. That wasn't ONE ocasion, I live in a very violent place where such things are sadly common (not so much now as they were before but still). Every fucking time I've heard of a citizen trying to defend himself from a thief with a gun I heard he got shot. In fact, they will often shoot you if they THINK you might be reaching for a gun. Criminals have somethings we don't have: the element of surprise, utter desperation, practice with guns and the lack of fear to shoot.
Most of the time, they don't break into people house's to kill them, that's far from the most common type of crime. Most of the time they don't want to kill you - they want your money, jewerly, car. You're much safer giving them what they want. Now, if they think you might shoot, no doubt they will do it first. You are never expecting it.
I think there is something more sordid about not being in poverty, starvation, epidemics and war and still having high murder rates.
In fact, I think there is something sordid about trying to say: more people die of starvation, and that is supposed to make these murder rates acceptable.
Delusion.