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Originally Posted by ann ashtray
OK, this is going to sound like a stupid question...I get it...but honesty, how do you perceive things to be different if guns were suddenly unavailable to the general public?
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its not about how do I perceive if, rather that largely the way things are in Los Angeles.
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Originally Posted by SuchFriendsAreDangerous
it is pretty hard to find guns in Los Angeles, as they closed up all the gunshops. Ten years ago there were still a lot of gun shops and street dealers would steal them from inventory shipments at the rail yard in san pedro, you could get brand new in the box nines on the block for dirt cheap. They still sold pistols at Wal-Mart and there were many many gun shops, gun shows, and gun traders. Now there are only a hand full of legitimate dealers in the area, and getting a gun out on the block is much more difficult than ever before, the kids are carrying rusty, beat up and (burned) straps that they keep shuffling around between em, where as they used to have nice shit.
While the murder rate is considerably down from the early-90s, it is still startling high for any place on earth, and that is WITH heavy gun control. I would say from the perspective of California, that gun control works, the problem is that we all have to be on the same page. With Arizona (who is so ironically crying over cartel violence while they are large contributor to all the cross border gun-running  ) having such easy laws, a lot of these guns are coming still coming into Cali from there, the US needs to really get back on track.
I say FUCK IT and FUCK the SECOND AMMENDMENT, KILLING IS AGAINST THE CONSTITUTION TOO!!
fuck guns!
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Originally Posted by FreshChops
You've avoided acknowledging this and therefore the possible benefits. I know nobody or have even heard stories close to home of any accidental deaths or misuse of a firearm. This is the world I live in, it's where I draw my opinions from.
.... this is really about you forcing others to adapt for your insecurities.
the last thing I'm worried about is if they might accidentally kill me while neglectfully playing with a firearm.
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ahem
Carlos Vela, 17
Died June 1, 2009 at 7:53 p.m.
Carlos Vela, a 17-year-old Latino, was shot in the head in the 9600 block of Beverly Street in Bellflower. He died on Monday, June 1, according to the Los Angeles County coroner's office.
Vela was accidentally shot by his friend James Kempski, 17, of Bellflower.
Deputies searched for Kempski
after he accidentally shot Vela to death and then disappeared. He was reportedly despondent about the shooting and still has a gun, officials said.
Kempski and Vela, of Lawndale, were playing with a handgun when it fired, Lt. Dan Rosenberg said.
Kempski's father called law enforcement personnel from Arizona, where he was traveling on business, to report that his son was distraught because he had accidentally shot his friend.
Det. Phil Martinez said the boy told his father that he was afraid that no one would believe him and that he wanted to kill himself.
Vela's mother, Aida Portillo, appeared on local television news broadcasts to beg Kempski to turn himself in.
Investigators believe that there were other people at the home when Vela was shot and that Kempski is with friends, Martinez said.
— Associated Press
(this was a few blocks from my house)
by the way, its not about accidental shootings, its about shootings where people might have overreacted, and to my point, the people who steal guns from legit people with guns or the shady gun dealers who report them stolen or fake the paperwork and sell them on the street. and killing people, even in defense, is hardly a benefit.