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Originally Posted by Rob Instigator
and for every depressed individual that does not use a gun to end it, because guns are not available, there will be another human being who died becauise he/she did not have a gun to defend themselves. that is the complexity of real life.
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I really don't think the ratio is 50/50 there, like you seem to be implying.
Unless you mean people dying in wars, but a gun in the house wouldn't help them much.
When it comes to guns: suicide, murder and accidents happen WAY more often than citizens defending themselves.
To have the slighest chance, someone would have to be trained and active to begin with, so the idea that having a gun somewhere in your house is protecting you is an illusion.
Like I said, most people are shot when they are not expecting, they don't have time to act even if they did have a gun.
As for the seatbelts, once again, numbers. Although they might cause deaths eventually, your chances of being saved by them are much higher. That's not the same for guns, if you could track down every gun ever bought by a citizen you will see that they will cause harm MORE OFTEN than good.
This is about statistics, you need to consider that to make a rational point.
Suchfriends had the best input, when he actually gave us numbers there but unfortunately, he was ignored. The point he was making wasn't about OPINIONS, it was about FACTS.