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Old 08.25.2010, 10:42 AM   #524
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Originally Posted by ploesj
yeah, wow, i seriously can't agree with that. hitler was indeed elected in a time when germany was struggling, and cleverly placed the blame on one group of civilians. certainly at the beginning of his power, most germans didn't intend at all to fight him, except maybe the radical communists. it was even the opposite: he got the industry on wheels again and gave them a road network that still exists. what they saw was the good things in their own environment, and the people they were made believe to be evil disappear.

this is quite one-sided of course and i'm sure there will have been exceptions, but it is crazy what the power of one strong political individual can do with a person's mind. hitler wasn't the first one who got a whole nation into doing crazy stuff.

no, hitler wasn't elected, he was appointed chancellor by hindenburg, who had beat him by election. hitler never got more than 33% of the vote and the nazis never got more than 37% for the reichstag.

hitler used the fire of the reichstag (his own "911") to seize power and suspend the german constitution. from then on he was a dictator.

i can't really speculate about what would have happened in germany if people had guns, but the USA has never had a dictator. the southern states hated lincoln and tried to secede on the basis of state rights and we had a horrible civil war that started in 1865, but funny enough there have been elections throughout, lincoln had an election in the middle of civil war. there have been crooked politicians of all stripes and collusion with business and all sorts of horrors, rigged elections and such, but never an outright dictatorship, military or otherwise.

i mentioned however that switzerland was never invaded. it was called a "porcupine" by hitler. sure it wasn't just the militias and the citizen-warrior ethos, they hand control of the alpine railways, but the level of civil disobedience and guerrilla warfare in switzerland would have been incredibly costly to his war efforts if he had invaded. the population was never going to comply.
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